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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=iWOV8DMp; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.39 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=iWOV8DMp; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D7DAE3786D X-Spam-Score: -9.39 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 5nNMsIAGpL4z Gottfried writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] >> Word of warning: if you want to stay anonymous, you should use Tor >>> Browser or Tails. Icecat is a bad choice, it has few users and its >>> developers added some custom code that makes it very easy to figure out >>> your aren't running vanilla Firefox. > > As far as I understand it: > > How can I use Tor Browser or Tails in Guix? > > I would have to use Tails through a usb-stick, without installing it > on the harddisk - am I right? > > How could I use Tor Browser with Guix? > > Gottfried > > > Am 28.08.22 um 14:09 schrieb Csepp: >> Gottfried writes: >> >>> [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] >>> Hi Guixers, >>> >>> I installed "tor". >>> >>> Do I also need "tor-client" and "torsocks"? >>> >>> I don't know what they are for. >>> >>> I don't want to have too many packages, so if I don't need them to run >>> tor, I can uninstall them. >>> >>> Gottfried >>> >>> [2. OpenPGP public key --- application/pgp-keys; OpenPGP_0x61FAF349C9FB7F94.asc]... >>> >>> [[End of PGP Signed Part]] >> You can just use tor and set your browser or whatever to use it as a >> proxy. Torsocks mostly does the same thing. Kind of. (Not really.) >> Word of warning: if you want to stay anonymous, you should use Tor >> Browser or Tails. Icecat is a bad choice, it has few users and its >> developers added some custom code that makes it very easy to figure out >> your aren't running vanilla Firefox. > > > [2. OpenPGP public key --- application/pgp-keys; OpenPGP_0x61FAF349C9FB7F94.asc]... > > [[End of PGP Signed Part]] Tails itself has docs on how you can use it, Guix doesn't matter in that case. For Tor Browser, your best bets are containers of some sort. I have Arch and Debian chroots for running software that Guix can't run yet. Maybe it has a Flatpak? I think there might be some info on the mailing list about running it, I know I've seen others discuss it. Personally, I use Tails from a USB stick, it's the most secure of all the alternatives.