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References: <260d2ed2-2af6-73f0-be62-27d25098bef2@gmail.com> <87o8kbg9uq.fsf@ngyro.com> <87mtzv68bm.fsf@yucca> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2020 14:20:08 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87mtzv68bm.fsf@yucca> (Vagrant Cascadian's message of "Thu, 05 Nov 2020 09:07:41 -0800") Message-ID: <87ft5nfw5z.fsf@ngyro.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.147.123.21; envelope-from=samplet@ngyro.com; helo=wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/05 14:20:10 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: help-guix@gnu.org, Jesse Gibbons Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (headers rsa verify failed) header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b=T34YJQK9; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.99 X-TUID: AIdpRgN0SGvs Hi Vagrant, Vagrant Cascadian writes: > On 2020-11-05, Timothy Sample wrote: > >> For the Veyron boards, it is starting to work quite well. The current >> version of U-Boot can boot these boards, but you can also boot U-Boot >> from the stock firmware (which is Depthcharge). This is needed because >> the Guix initial RAM disk is too big for Depthcharge to boot directly. > > Curious; I've never been able to get the U-Boot working on the veyron > speedy, AIUI, commit fffdf7290cee85232ee522e27c09c7f1178e6219 makes it work. It looks like it was included in 2020.07. I was able to flash U-Boot onto an ASUS C201 and now it boots nicely (and can be rolled back with a nice little menu). (I was gearing up to debug U-Boot myself, and am very relieved someone beat me to it!) > but use an old libreboot to boot guix (but only linux-libre > versions < 5.5, 5.6+ gets stuck in some loop). The initrd size appears > to be a non-issue for me. I have the same problem with the kernel, and am using 5.4 currently. I tried with Libreboot and with stock Depthcharge and had no luck. I=E2=80= =99m pretty sure it=E2=80=99s a size issue, because every image I built bigger t= han 16M could not boot, but plenty of smaller ones could (if I made my own initial RAM disk, say). IIRC, upstream Depthcharge bumped the size limit from 16M to 32M and that version should be included in Libreboot. However, it didn=E2=80=99t work for me in practice. Either way, I am much happier using U-Boot. >> The point I=E2=80=99m trying to make is that Guix can be made to work on= armhf, >> but it is not at all smooth sailing. There are usually one or two >> things that need fixing before it will work. IME, we are close to >> having a decent experience, but we=E2=80=99re definitely not there yet. > > Yes, I'll definitely agree that it is improving, but maybe not that it > is close. :) That=E2=80=99s fair! My glasses are a bit rosy right now because of my rec= ent success with U-Boot. -- Tim