From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id MEFUK4Irel9oKQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 20:07:30 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id wP4KJ4Irel+jfAAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 20:07:30 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 652739400D3 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2020 20:07:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:39828 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPAI3-0002lE-6x for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 16:07:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33664) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPAHm-0002kw-Di for help-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 16:07:10 -0400 Received: from static.214.254.202.116.clients.your-server.de ([116.202.254.214]:59218 helo=ciao.gmane.io) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPAHi-00051d-8f for help-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 16:07:10 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kPAHc-0001sY-Oo for help-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 22:07:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: help-guix@gnu.org From: Stefan Huchler Subject: Re: define udev-service-type fails with "did you forget to import.." error Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2020 22:06:55 +0200 Message-ID: <87eemd21sw.fsf@mail.de> References: <87blhq6hi9.fsf@mail.de> <87mu18659m.fsf@gnu.org> <8736305z7o.fsf@mail.de> <87pn5y1dyc.fsf@elephly.net> <87pn5y13d6.fsf@mail.de> <87imbq9gtz.fsf@nckx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:GoSU1j3rvQh3Hf/znYLrP7Brz8Y= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=gcggh-help-guix@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/04 13:08:03 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=mail.de (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 1.09 X-TUID: AN/u70SXvrnF Tobias Geerinckx-Rice writes: > That's not what [0] describes, is it? It illustrates some service > concepts, using real code as example. First maybe that is because of text messages and you don't see a face but your messages sounds a bit passive agressive, but independent from that I am happy to get a answer, so thanks. > It doesn't imply that the example code can or should be added to a > system configuration. I thought that meaned to be example code to extend such code, but I english is not my first language and I might read not everything extremely carefully. > Nobody: (gnu services base) defines udev-shepherd-service but does not > export it. It's not intended to be API, nor do I think it needs to > be. Yes and no, I reported 3 weeks ago: http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/43390 So if there would be a direct way to access the hwdb capability of udev service I would be happy to not use this hack, but for now I priotise something running over something done the right way, I am good at elisp but not so good with guile or with understanding the guix architecture, I try to get a laptop in a usable shape so that I can maybe start being more productive use the emacs module and well over time learn. I don't want to become a guix / scheme expert just to get my keyboard working on my laptop which is my second installation after my netbook on which I will not code much for guix. I am totally open to better solutions but if I have to write 10 messages in 3 weeks I take what I can get, to get the system working. > You might be able to use (@@ (gnu services base) > udev-shepherd-service), which forces the module to give up its > secrets. It's not good style, and it won't always work but often > does. I will test that and report back, thanks for the info. > Because it's naive. See and - > please! - beat me to a fix ;-) Maybe I will, just currently more into some elisp/emacs projects. Regards Stefan Huchler