From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id V/5NISfpOGHLPQEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 18:47:35 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id yDsSHCfpOGFROAAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 16:47:35 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D67461C39D for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2021 18:47:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:35796 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mO0jV-0007xt-Th for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 12:47:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52920) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mO0jA-0007vj-6f for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 12:47:12 -0400 Received: from cascadia.aikidev.net ([173.255.214.101]:59866) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mO0j8-0006oN-1w for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 12:47:11 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:21:21:21:0:100b]) (Authenticated sender: vagrant@cascadia.debian.net) by cascadia.aikidev.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 686DE1AAA7; Wed, 8 Sep 2021 09:47:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Vagrant Cascadian To: Christine Lemmer-Webber , Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli Subject: Re: Guix on the MNT Reform In-Reply-To: <87wnnr9wfp.fsf@dustycloud.org> References: <87ftcaqxer.fsf@dustycloud.org> <874kbogf1h.fsf@dustycloud.org> <877dgjd441.fsf@d2.com> <87mtordcqq.fsf@dustycloud.org> <20210907063652.697bd4e3@primarylaptop.localdomain> <87h7ewb5mg.fsf@dustycloud.org> <20210907220719.538f582a@primarylaptop.localdomain> <87wnnr9wfp.fsf@dustycloud.org> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 09:47:02 -0700 Message-ID: <87czpjqak9.fsf@yucca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: none client-ip=173.255.214.101; envelope-from=vagrant@debian.org; helo=cascadia.aikidev.net X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: help-guix@gnu.org Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1631119655; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=fGTDwWwlB3z30iydROOPDDwmdtdgReOJUnYsJ2Aqgxg=; b=BsSZ4fIPhMRQXFq5KnfiNpH3wNYqVnq0bXtk2Ymd4/G6tHch20VnV8K7YkLp1Po3AP3soO hrefb8a8gErtnv1ldOLr4MqfsS6HBk14RdTKdYWapff3eVS8GbjNj9wvkcZfY4j3izQKmC jeK7HDrcyfx1kqzsqPbMM7MEmH7sSxMBtOn32GwxyxJ/MtAU/ffOWlxxsh5vBuAQ+ie8xG uOOZe1jT64Qajzt6qOxREcRe/3rTFbYOhkEoxB73g08H6wrBTCbgWUDazhKD+/tcys15Cc WctJo2/jK7hu2vCzMYq5wytXIJy4GZLETejQpLdIBlklmkj1BKqzMB0xTZLSxg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1631119655; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=tQew87l+JdN1L20wzVX8ttn6wvK2qB93ztkprVwH4C4GeZA9ERQhChmdFHzg8vz6L99OW7 X/OTUhKn7ZoU4sRatAcJUVIMB4Nms0Ue7QiCVsyBA6tw/fD8R4cwMC4uBk9PaaSa3hhA1z C++aXOWuIU+rI0fQ+bAHIXJ9CYVFK1oZkRBjl48Su+iIqJEwsPDm6NrClT28GIInW6YeXH ODp6ImG5DRnkBTHnaFKfRGZcNOJSQU/12+VHWlWwuMovDsZtbygqb8vAAJ7OlpVlXwg1p5 umKX45bfVX+9zg3bnZpd/aSYjhQNMlFLsnIkzgouiBz7ndWDGCi6lyBqxUJYOQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.01 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D67461C39D X-Spam-Score: -4.01 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: O8mssDGIg/c8 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On 2021-09-08, Christine Lemmer-Webber wrote: > Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli writes: >> Here this I'MX8 issue also affect the Librem5 for instance, and >> probably several other devices as well. And the neat thing about the >> Librem 5 is that as I understand is that the modem and the WiFi cards >> are removable. > > I am guessing the Pinephone has a similar issue (or more) though I'm not > sure. The Pinephone doesn't have that specific issue, as it's a different CPU (Allwinner A64), the same used on the pine64+ and pinebook, which are supported in Guix's u-boot. I vaguely recall those boards having similar types of issues early on requiring some binary blobs, but it was fixed in u-boot upstream with a free implementation! > Pinephone doesn't have removeable cards, though it does have kill > switches, which is neat. I guess "removeable" is better if it also > means "replaceable" though. Yeah, one of the many features that pushed me over the edge in supporting the mnt/reform was all the swappable components; if reverse-engineering does not happen for one of the few components that isn't already free, the component liklely can be swapped out for one with a free implementation. And the inherent upgradability in designing something with swappable components... live well, vagrant --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQRlgHNhO/zFx+LkXUXcUY/If5cWqgUCYTjpBgAKCRDcUY/If5cW qp9DAP9QgtMWsFbTSAH7o5U+VSQlPVSsZvxjYr2efMK8bJ5AYgD/Rfy7kh0tZI8S vBG1b8+q1L42esgGIdedjN2Tp6RdOA8= =iFYC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--