From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: rendaw <7e9wc56emjakcm@s.rendaw.me>
Cc: help-guix@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Services and log management/monitoring
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 23:20:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bm1472ha.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <67f09d8d-3ca6-90a0-6e72-c85ec9d1572f@s.rendaw.me> (rendaw's message of "Mon, 15 Apr 2019 03:12:23 +0900")
Hello!
The kind of “service” that Guix manages is those described here:
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/Service-Composition.html
The first paragraph tries to explain it:
Here we define a “service” as, broadly, something that extends the
functionality of the operating system. Often a service is a process—a
“daemon”—started when the system boots: a secure shell server, a Web
server, the Guix build daemon, etc. Sometimes a service is a daemon
whose execution can be triggered by another daemon—e.g., an FTP server
started by ‘inetd’ or a D-Bus service activated by ‘dbus-daemon’.
Occasionally, a service does not map to a daemon. For instance, the
“account” service collects user accounts and makes sure they exist when
the system runs; the “udev” service collects device management rules and
makes them available to the eudev daemon; the ‘/etc’ service populates
the ‘/etc’ directory of the system.
For services that “map to a daemon”, you’d extend
‘shepherd-root-service-type’ by providing a Shepherd service. A
Shepherd service is a service managed by PID 1. You can list them on a
running system by running ‘herd status’ as root.
IOW, Shepherd services are a special case of service. Just like D-Bus
services are another special case, etc.
About logging: Shepherd does very little in that area. It limits itself
to providing a #:log-file parameter to capture the processes’s
stdout/stderr to a file. Other than that we usually configure daemons
to write to syslog, which provides more flexibility regarding storage
and filtering of log entries.
A “non-Shepherd service” as you call them doesn’t necessarily map to a
process, so there’s potentially nothing to log in the first place.
Does that answer your questions?
Thanks,
Ludo’.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-04-17 21:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-04-14 18:12 Services and log management/monitoring rendaw
2019-04-17 21:20 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2019-04-18 15:11 ` rendaw
2019-04-19 12:09 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-19 15:47 ` rendaw
2019-05-04 7:01 ` Chris Marusich
2019-05-04 8:01 ` rendaw
2019-05-04 8:24 ` Chris Marusich
2019-05-04 8:32 ` rendaw
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