* Guile text editor
@ 2018-11-28 10:22 znavko
2018-11-28 10:59 ` Pierre Neidhardt
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From: znavko @ 2018-11-28 10:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello, developers! Parentheses in config.scm obstruct reading. Gedit does not highlight them, geany does not exists in guix, emacs highlights, but it is buggie: when I press c-x u many times this causes segmentation fault and it crushes.
Which text editor from guixsd repository can highlight guile parentheses?
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* Re: Guile text editor
2018-11-28 10:22 Guile text editor znavko
@ 2018-11-28 10:59 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-11-28 11:08 ` Efraim Flashner
2018-11-28 12:34 ` Catonano
2018-11-28 12:45 ` hub.lombard
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From: Pierre Neidhardt @ 2018-11-28 10:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: znavko; +Cc: Help Guix
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I suspect most Guix developers use Emacs with the Geiser mode for enhanced
Scheme integration.
A segfault on "C-x u"? (you mean undo?) Very strange. Can you reproduce a
specific recipe? Is it just in Guile files? What minor modes are you running?
Is it terminal or graphical Emacs?
Note that if you have a US QWERTY layout, you might prefer "C-/" to undo.
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* Re: Guile text editor
2018-11-28 10:59 ` Pierre Neidhardt
@ 2018-11-28 11:08 ` Efraim Flashner
2018-11-28 12:00 ` znavko
2018-11-28 17:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
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From: Efraim Flashner @ 2018-11-28 11:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pierre Neidhardt; +Cc: Help Guix
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 11:59:15AM +0100, Pierre Neidhardt wrote:
> I suspect most Guix developers use Emacs with the Geiser mode for enhanced
> Scheme integration.
>
> A segfault on "C-x u"? (you mean undo?) Very strange. Can you reproduce a
> specific recipe? Is it just in Guile files? What minor modes are you running?
> Is it terminal or graphical Emacs?
>
> Note that if you have a US QWERTY layout, you might prefer "C-/" to undo.
>
I use vim with no highlighting. We also have edi as a code editor. I
haven't tried it out too much though, or with guix.
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* Re: Guile text editor
2018-11-28 11:08 ` Efraim Flashner
@ 2018-11-28 12:00 ` znavko
2018-11-28 12:15 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-11-28 17:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
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From: znavko @ 2018-11-28 12:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Efraim Flashner; +Cc: Help Guix
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I've installed `guix package -i emacs-geiser` and open `emacs /etc/config.scm`
Then 'M-x run-geiser' and it displayed in a half-window scree scheme. Here pic: http://0x0.st/s004.png
Video shows much better code editing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6jGBWfqafc <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6jGBWfqafc>
There parentheses are colored and auto-complementing.
But I cannot find instruction how to configure that in qwant.
One more: when I've installed guile-emacs, emacs was starting for 30 seconds. I deleted guile-emacs, and now emacsstarts quickly (1-2 seconds). But I think it works slower than geany. I need info how disable unnecessary stuff.
Nov 28, 2018, 2:08 PM by efraim@flashner.co.il:
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 11:59:15AM +0100, Pierre Neidhardt wrote:
>
>> I suspect most Guix developers use Emacs with the Geiser mode for enhanced
>> Scheme integration.
>>
>> A segfault on "C-x u"? (you mean undo?) Very strange. Can you reproduce a
>> specific recipe? Is it just in Guile files? What minor modes are you running?
>> Is it terminal or graphical Emacs?
>>
>> Note that if you have a US QWERTY layout, you might prefer "C-/" to undo.
>>
>
> I use vim with no highlighting. We also have edi as a code editor. I
> haven't tried it out too much though, or with guix.
>
>
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* Re: Guile text editor
2018-11-28 12:00 ` znavko
@ 2018-11-28 12:15 ` Pierre Neidhardt
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From: Pierre Neidhardt @ 2018-11-28 12:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: znavko; +Cc: Help Guix
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> One more: when I've installed guile-emacs, emacs was starting for 30 seconds. I
> deleted guile-emacs, and now emacsstarts quickly (1-2 seconds). But I think it
> works slower than geany. I need info how disable unnecessary stuff.
How fast does Emacs start when run as `emacs -Q`?
You can check the startup time by running `M-x emacs-init-time`. (`M-x` could mean
Alt-x on your keyboard).
Do you have an ~/.emacs.d folder or a ~/.emacs file? You might want to inspect
those.
You can also install emacs-esup, then run `M-x esup` to profile your startup
times.
Finally, vanilla Emacs is very fast, it should not lag.
Can you tell a difference with or without Geiser?
Not that if you only want basic Scheme support, Emacs provides it out of the
box, without Geiser.
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* Re: Guile text editor
2018-11-28 11:08 ` Efraim Flashner
2018-11-28 12:00 ` znavko
@ 2018-11-28 17:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-28 17:54 ` Efraim Flashner
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From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2018-11-28 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Efraim Flashner; +Cc: Help Guix
Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> skribis:
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 11:59:15AM +0100, Pierre Neidhardt wrote:
>> I suspect most Guix developers use Emacs with the Geiser mode for enhanced
>> Scheme integration.
>>
>> A segfault on "C-x u"? (you mean undo?) Very strange. Can you reproduce a
>> specific recipe? Is it just in Guile files? What minor modes are you running?
>> Is it terminal or graphical Emacs?
>>
>> Note that if you have a US QWERTY layout, you might prefer "C-/" to undo.
>>
>
> I use vim with no highlighting. We also have edi as a code editor. I
> haven't tried it out too much though, or with guix.
I believe Vim provides syntax highlighting and autoidenting for Scheme,
as well as paredit.vim:
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/Formatting-Code.html
Ludo’.
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* Re: Guile text editor
2018-11-28 17:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2018-11-28 17:54 ` Efraim Flashner
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From: Efraim Flashner @ 2018-11-28 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: Help Guix
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 06:22:52PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> skribis:
>
> > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 11:59:15AM +0100, Pierre Neidhardt wrote:
> >> I suspect most Guix developers use Emacs with the Geiser mode for enhanced
> >> Scheme integration.
> >>
> >> A segfault on "C-x u"? (you mean undo?) Very strange. Can you reproduce a
> >> specific recipe? Is it just in Guile files? What minor modes are you running?
> >> Is it terminal or graphical Emacs?
> >>
> >> Note that if you have a US QWERTY layout, you might prefer "C-/" to undo.
> >>
> >
> > I use vim with no highlighting. We also have edi as a code editor. I
> > haven't tried it out too much though, or with guix.
>
> I believe Vim provides syntax highlighting and autoidenting for Scheme,
> as well as paredit.vim:
>
> https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/Formatting-Code.html
vim does have a scheme module, in
$out/share/vim/vim81/syntax/scheme.vim, and guix's code base gets
recongized as scheme code. I meant that when I have my cursor over a
parenthesis it highlights the other side, but that they're not color
coded or something.
The indenting does work fairly well with the default scheme.vim that
learning vimscript for the purpose of creating a guix.vim has been
backburnered for more than 2 years.
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* Re: Guile text editor
2018-11-28 10:22 Guile text editor znavko
2018-11-28 10:59 ` Pierre Neidhardt
@ 2018-11-28 12:34 ` Catonano
2018-11-28 16:12 ` znavko
2018-11-28 12:45 ` hub.lombard
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From: Catonano @ 2018-11-28 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: znavko; +Cc: help-guix
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Il giorno mer 28 nov 2018 alle ore 11:47 <znavko@tutanota.com> ha scritto:
> Hello, developers! Parentheses in config.scm obstruct reading. Gedit does
> not highlight them, geany does not exists in guix, emacs highlights, but it
> is buggie: when I press c-x u many times this causes segmentation fault and
> it crushes.
>
I used Emacs with some mode for parens highlighting
Now that I'm on Xubuntu (and when I was on Fedora) I used Gedit with a
setting to highlight parenses
Maybe it can be compiled in such a way to offer such setting in its
settings window ?
I don't know
This is a shot of the Gedit settings window on Xubuntu, see the last
checkbox on the bottom ?
https://imgur.com/a/LOcDIhd
> Which text editor from guixsd repository can highlight guile parentheses?
>
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* Re: Guile text editor
2018-11-28 12:34 ` Catonano
@ 2018-11-28 16:12 ` znavko
2018-11-29 12:31 ` Joshua Branson
2018-12-02 4:28 ` Maxim Cournoyer
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From: znavko @ 2018-11-28 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Catonano; +Cc: help-guix
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Thank you, Catonano! There are such options in Gedit!
Comparing with that highlighting in emacs (left) http://0x0.st/s004.png <http://0x0.st/s004.png>
this gedit highlighting is so poor.
I need info how to activate parentheses highlighting in Emacs, and may be configure exactly as in my pic left side.
Nov 28, 2018, 3:34 PM by catonano@gmail.com:
>
> I used Emacs with some mode for parens highlighting
>
> Now that I'm on Xubuntu (and when I was on Fedora) I used Gedit with a setting to highlight parenses
>
> Maybe it can be compiled in such a way to offer such setting in its settings window ?
>
> I don't know
>
> This is a shot of the Gedit settings window on Xubuntu, see the last checkbox on the bottom ?
> https://imgur.com/a/LOcDIhd <https://imgur.com/a/LOcDIhd>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Which text editor from guixsd repository can highlight guile parentheses?
>>
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* Re: Guile text editor
2018-11-28 16:12 ` znavko
@ 2018-11-29 12:31 ` Joshua Branson
2018-12-02 4:28 ` Maxim Cournoyer
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From: Joshua Branson @ 2018-11-29 12:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-guix
<znavko@tutanota.com> writes:
> Thank you, Catonano! There are such options in Gedit!
>
> Comparing with that highlighting in emacs (left) http://0x0.st/s004.png
> this gedit highlighting is so poor.
>
> I need info how to activate parentheses highlighting in Emacs, and may be configure exactly as in my pic left side.
You probably want guix package -i emacs-rainbow-delimiters.
(add-hook 'scheme-mode-hook 'rainbow-delimiters-mode)
(add-hook 'emacs-lisp-mode-hook 'rainbow-delimiters-mode)
Also you probably don't want to use the standard emacs theme. It's
ugly. You should try zenburn-theme.
M-x list-packages RET
Install zenburn-theme. (It's one of the better ones https://github.com/bbatsov/zenburn-emacs).
Tweaking your Emacs takes a lifetime. :)
You might also want to try an Emacs distribution:
- Spacemacs is beautiful! http://spacemacs.org/
- prelude https://github.com/bbatsov/prelude
- Graphene https://github.com/rdallasgray/graphene
- Emacs Bootstrap http://emacs-bootstrap.com/
- Frontmacs https://github.com/thefrontside/frontmacs
- Steve Purcell's config https://github.com/purcell/emacs.d
I personally cloned his a long time ago.
>
> Nov 28, 2018, 3:34 PM by catonano@gmail.com:
>
> I used Emacs with some mode for parens highlighting
>
> Now that I'm on Xubuntu (and when I was on Fedora) I used Gedit with a setting to highlight parenses
>
> Maybe it can be compiled in such a way to offer such setting in its settings window ?
>
> I don't know
>
> This is a shot of the Gedit settings window on Xubuntu, see the last checkbox on the bottom ?
> https://imgur.com/a/LOcDIhd
>
> Which text editor from guixsd repository can highlight guile parentheses?
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* Re: Guile text editor
2018-11-28 16:12 ` znavko
2018-11-29 12:31 ` Joshua Branson
@ 2018-12-02 4:28 ` Maxim Cournoyer
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From: Maxim Cournoyer @ 2018-12-02 4:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: znavko; +Cc: help-guix
Hello,
<znavko@tutanota.com> writes:
[...]
> I need info how to activate parentheses highlighting in Emacs, and may be configure exactly as in my pic left side.
Slap (show-paren-mode) in your ~/.emacs :-). You'll also want
(electric-pair-mode). Also try paredit, it makes editing Lisp/Scheme much
more pleasant.
HTH,
Maxim
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* Re: Guile text editor
2018-11-28 10:22 Guile text editor znavko
2018-11-28 10:59 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-11-28 12:34 ` Catonano
@ 2018-11-28 12:45 ` hub.lombard
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From: hub.lombard @ 2018-11-28 12:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: znavko; +Cc: Help Guix
Hello znavko,
Weird, I use Gedit and it's OK for parentheses in 'config.scm'. Maybe remove and re-install Gedit?
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À: "Help Guix" <help-guix@gnu.org>
Envoyé: Mercredi 28 Novembre 2018 11:22:41
Objet: Guile text editor
Hello, developers! Parentheses in config.scm obstruct reading. Gedit does not highlight them, geany does not exists in guix, emacs highlights, but it is buggie: when I press c-x u many times this causes segmentation fault and it crushes.
Which text editor from guixsd repository can highlight guile parentheses?
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