From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id SLA0AB+qtl4BCwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 09 May 2020 13:03:27 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id cOyABCyqtl7PPgAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 09 May 2020 13:03:40 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5B6E940B2B for ; Sat, 9 May 2020 13:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:40416 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXP8k-0007bM-FJ for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 09:03:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43010) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXP8d-0007bE-KV for help-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 09:03:31 -0400 Received: from dustycloud.org ([50.116.34.160]:38936) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXP8c-0005ID-Rp for help-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 09:03:31 -0400 Received: from twig (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dustycloud.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B30F26698; Sat, 9 May 2020 09:03:29 -0400 (EDT) References: <87ftcaqxer.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87d07ez3vi.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> User-agent: mu4e 1.2.0; emacs 26.3 From: Christopher Lemmer Webber To: Simon Josefsson Subject: Re: Guix on the MNT Reform In-reply-to: <87d07ez3vi.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 09:03:29 -0400 Message-ID: <877dxlqmzi.fsf@dustycloud.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=50.116.34.160; envelope-from=cwebber@dustycloud.org; helo=dustycloud.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/09 09:03:29 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: help-guix Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Scanner: scn0 X-Spam-Score: -1.01 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [-1.01 / 13.00]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.5405059286355]; DWL_DNSWL_BLOCKED(0.00)[209.51.188.17:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.51.188.0/24:c]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 22989(0.09), country: US(-0.00), ip: 209.51.188.17(-0.54)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[209.51.188.17:server fail]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:209.51.188.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[cwebber@dustycloud.org,help-guix-bounces@gnu.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[crowdsupply.com:url,dustycloud.org:email,pine64.org:url]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dustycloud.org]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.51.188.17:from]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[] X-TUID: K9Iip10WPy8n Simon Josefsson writes: > Christopher Lemmer Webber writes: > >> I'm very excited to see the MNT Reform launch: >> >> https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt/reform >> https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt/reform/updates/the-campaign-is-live >> >> Completely hackable laptop; all the designs (that are possible) are >> libre, and you can even 3d print to replace many of the parts. > > It looks quite expensive. Did you look at the Pinebook Pro? > > https://www.pine64.org/pinebook-pro/ > https://store.pine64.org/?product=14%e2%80%b3-pinebook-pro-linux-laptop-64gb-emmc-iso-keyboard-estimated-dispatch-in-october-2019 > > I have ordered their Rockpro64 single-board computer to start Guix > experimentation on it. It is an arm64 platform. > > https://store.pine64.org/?product=rockpro64-4gb-single-board-computer > > /Simon The Pinebook Pro is definitely amazingly cheap. The MNT Reform is trying to aim for something else though: something easily repairable and continuable by the community.