From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id sMwIOQazjmEtwQAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2021 19:31:34 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id EOXGNAazjmHsbAAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2021 18:31:34 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64E81C206 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2021 19:31:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:47220 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mlbKl-0006VZ-JP for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 12 Nov 2021 13:31:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47374) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mlbKV-0006VA-4I for help-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Nov 2021 13:31:15 -0500 Received: from sv-2s11.infcs.de ([194.95.66.48]:60274 helo=ux-2s-mailproxy.inf.h-brs.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mlbKP-0000KB-Rc for help-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Nov 2021 13:31:14 -0500 Received: from gyps.l7 (p5797302f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.151.48.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by ux-2s-mailproxy.inf.h-brs.de (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-8ska0) with ESMTPSA id 1ACIUwZg032195 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 12 Nov 2021 19:31:02 +0100 Received: from gyps.h-brs.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by gyps.l7 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9D1420124; Fri, 12 Nov 2021 19:30:48 +0100 (CET) References: <87r1bnx8j1.fsf@condor.l7> <87fss2q2o7.fsf@gmail.com> <87bl2qmvbs.fsf@h-brs.de> <20211111205840.54cq2xnouskjcqq5@pelzflorian.localdomain> <87ee7ltnem.fsf@condor.l7> <20211112164836.eumn2hc4qsrv6i3y@pelzflorian.localdomain> User-agent: mu4e 1.7.4; emacs 27.2 From: Alexander Asteroth To: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" Subject: Re: Best base system for Guix Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 19:21:38 +0100 In-reply-to: <20211112164836.eumn2hc4qsrv6i3y@pelzflorian.localdomain> Message-ID: <877dddmdk8.fsf@h-brs.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Auth: by SMTP AUTH @ ux-2s11 X-MIMEDefang-Info-ge: Gescannt in Inf@FH-BRS, Regeln s. MiniFAQ E-Mail/Mailscanner X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang @ FB02 @ H-BRS Received-SPF: pass client-ip=194.95.66.48; envelope-from=alexander.asteroth@h-brs.de; helo=ux-2s-mailproxy.inf.h-brs.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Andr=C3=A9_A=2E_Gomes?= , help-guix@gnu.org Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1636741894; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=2aFf+EsyoydfiLUEGTnEeB1hFKyK4rxiBU1b+xphuU0=; b=qYYdPNk7aRCn4eM7SUAmFbfw/G5Qe8V4LYTf4gnlySaa9ENinhcJVI0fi5k97rl/rJidD2 r+raCHGwsBir3rLwcc0Hkn+/IUujfDImLdxNp1Q7LvDNAo5Ez/inJsDzjUjSRkRuID+pUd iZmVQstGWbDJJMlgqlTd5OVzzd9fTYE3b0t0Z+ZCU0WCZjf+hpPOhXutu1Dd3IZfjdYXsb 1TRicU3wXE7Ad9JoVTov7xmB1/6Am7G0XfkNGO1OZSJ715Hk0aFBJqS2v5wcyVmAuj10ZE TV6Y9pcoEP3UbOAuNPAtHFAHJgyDf5E3i8OYQA5H/U+5gQ20NZ2eB5QpoGIB4w== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1636741894; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=JkQIy5vmasly7pVP9TNE0i0ANjdjZksvXrdOkzn9mRtnlF34x+u4h5Vdgly9kve1/gqmNv zKyk7sYYXqnBsCdlH5zF++XgvqOxTviSnVtr8hYxJMFUnXSRqthC6uY5wS6m+v+hNzZaH6 inaponvqr0JlbHDRKJadZZekWkzKZGryRTOqSQ0m/h4+HH4vayIZo59tZRWGexNljhehPC xKsXjglO4GfYyLJILiVSnxplG/0sVwf7aw2V+dgEU77LEGB57d+zB/NeH8uPiuzihYtNAa YZsFQlqbta2F5kKfJZ7+DxlhZ1/+kGGJz72C4dAjvjCjk+wiD5YyLwWGoTI0Mw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.23 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=h-brs.de (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 64E81C206 X-Spam-Score: -1.23 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: 7yeLb3l9XKhS Hi Florian, On Fri, Nov 12 2021, 17:48:36, "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" wrote: > Hello Alexander. I=E2=80=99m glad booting works. > > On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 04:16:17PM +0100, Alexander Asteroth wrote: >> I created a second EFI partition for >> the guix grub (to be sure it doesn't make my Debian installation >> unbootable) > > Debian and Guix can share an EFI system partition, otherwise I=E2=80=99m = not > sure if dual boot is possible. Except probably with (menu-entry =E2=80= =A6). of course dual boot is not possible this way. But the idea was to make sure nothing unplanned happens to the system I currently use everyday. >> Of course now the next issues arise, like "how do I configure postfix >> under guix" > > If you want Postfix to run an e-mail server: Is this on a VPS, so you > have a static IP? > > AFAIK there is not yet a postfix service for Guix, only Exim and > OpenSMTPd. But maybe someone has written a Guix channel for Postfix > outside the main Guix repo. > > I=E2=80=99m not sure, but maybe it would be better to configure Postfix w= ith > traditional configuration files and only start it automatically on > boot with a custom Shepherd service (see the syslogd example at > `info "(guix) Shepherd Services"`). Or imitate the Exim service in > the Guix repo. > I can probably live with nullmailer. I'll have a look at it. >> and what is the right way to make my keyboard layout known >> to the system (so far I have added a few lines (a variant) to the >> /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us file, wich is now hidden somewhere in the >> guix-store)? > > You need to change the value of (keyboard-layout =E2=80=A6) in your opera= ting > system configuration (by default /etc/config.scm). > > See the examples at `info "(guix) Keyboard Layouts"`. I'm not using a predifined layout from /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols but some self-defined variant based on us. This means I have to edit a file under /usr/share but that was the way it was done since I work with X11 (back in the 90s) and so far I haven't found a replacement for it that allows to fully define own keyboardlayouts. >> Guix configuration is really very different from other >> *ix'es. Are packages configurable at all without writing scheme-modules >> for them? An where would this configuration go? > > In Scheme code in your operating system configuration > (/etc/config.scm) or in your package manifest, you can add your own > package records in-place or you can use a module in which you defined But in the end the applications depend on configurartion files that need to be placed somewhere (even if generated or parameterized) by some scheme code. > them. It is probably best to look at the packages in the Guix repo. > For example you can use the command `guix edit hello` to look at GNU > Hello=E2=80=99s package. The Guix cookbook contains a packaging tutorial. I'll have a look at that. Before I encountered these issues I saw it but didn't understand it's importance. Cheers, Alex