From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: Re: chicken scheme Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 21:52:09 +0200 Message-ID: <874m89kufq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871t3ecx0f.fsf@hecubus.retroj.net> <87shvumkp0.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb0qbbeu.fsf@hecubus.retroj.net> <87ziq1lmyn.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9c9blso.fsf@hecubus.retroj.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35782) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJ4U8-0007Fx-1f for help-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 15:52:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJ4U2-0004hZ-1O for help-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 15:52:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87h9c9blso.fsf@hecubus.retroj.net> (John J. Foerch's message of "Fri, 01 Jul 2016 08:11:19 -0400") List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: John J Foerch Cc: help-guix@gnu.org John J Foerch skribis: > I have just learned about 'guix import', and have the thought that a > package importer would be the better way to go. Eventually I would like > to package software that I've written in CHICKEN for GuixSD, and only a > package importer would make that feasible. "Thompson, David" skribis: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:11 AM, John J Foerch wr= ote: > >> First a question about /var/lib, and please excuse the newbie question. >> If chicken extensions were installed to /var/lib, wouldn't that go >> against the spirit of guix of keeping every program isolated? Isn't >> /var/lib global state? > > Yes, but this program is not Guix. It's a completely separate package > manager, and it should work as intended. Agreed. So I think there are two issues at hand: 1. How to arrange our =E2=80=98chicken=E2=80=99 package so that =E2=80=98= chicken-install=E2=80=99 works as intended. 2. How to import Eggs so that they can be first-class Guix packages. #2, which means writing an importer, is definitely the most profitable approach: It=E2=80=99s best as a user to have all the packages managed by t= he same tool, especially if that provides isolation, transactional upgrades and rollbacks, etc. #1 is useful for CHICKEN users who are used to =E2=80=98chicken-install=E2= =80=99 (similarly pip, npm, etc. are supposed to work.) It should work in the same way as on other distros. I=E2=80=99ve never used it though, so I can= =E2=80=99t give precise advice. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.