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[78.147.225.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 14sm4052093ejy.11.2021.03.13.03.19.04 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:19:04 -0800 (PST) References: <87pn0731c1.fsf@eauchat.org> <85a6rbmin8.fsf@beadling.co.uk> <877dmdnmn1.fsf@eauchat.org> User-agent: mu4e 1.2.0; emacs 26.3 From: Phil To: =?utf-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= Lerique Subject: Re: Python, poetry, and pandas In-reply-to: <877dmdnmn1.fsf@eauchat.org> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 11:19:04 +0000 Message-ID: <854khfmhcn.fsf@beadling.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: none client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::635; envelope-from=phil@beadling.co.uk; helo=mail-ej1-x635.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: help-guix@gnu.org Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1615634360; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=zF/cXylrJY3l4wBf0QbikMFjlfRv25abDmLADZnhfBQ=; b=X3xri0w6RpUSyL4NOAQdm9qypEwIx7/tPgKlzceFXWVvPAIfcHn0fsbxxVMCvTwJVETxit Zonh4XKXJ7ITNoLTdkhvOlm0uYL7EJrk0Qtm1RhyD8cHUVZeDl5tzc7J2I05y8oHzPfU7t xhPCvbLSdSUObnW2t5ViX3RKZjZCRETZfzLhwB9jNoxWbKWpGUNc0pm0B1C7PqIHbgKugv 3mugTZ0BseqeL32o2IKlijsw2PTO1aCRldMSpEKWQC1MVE7YkwLVQeWy2TFYdb6RnoUTWe Rox90comKnqyY22KuRdCbRMDmFQWGwJ2OW+ZwD/YB6Vs15mi7/vzbbuuTO24Tw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1615634360; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=EMHyLDEv+nD+9dfpDy9b3d8E4hdxnhv4U5s8dndqY2tHCB/Six/R/QRArMAJ2JGm12k8Fu 1Rr8YmyKL47zMUYNQCbGX0Sha9rHp1fKcdaG13sD2XXd9AEZQBd51++648+x+0OjfJK2N1 coIZksJvjxW/NIlFSMSxcZr7DLao6MKwA6e7YNWr/a9fPqyclRM6o5c6HOxBUVitKDHmbB ddnyATT5qqgcuLTNkpAZGfDzKFjzkWUmxo4I6YIv6/QEYK39PTT8JtM98O9NtWMDusDkmH pwWNmc9UdKJnwrWCYbeg2xtloC6cY11No9ltyFO8PG5WDaO7413oo8XnOJOziw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=beadling-co-uk.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=TUKrfzcd; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.09 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=beadling-co-uk.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=TUKrfzcd; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: EB7981F677 X-Spam-Score: -1.09 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: BF8xYPMYuWFQ S=C3=A9bastien Lerique writes: > Now my wish is to find ways to collaborate with others on this kind of > project, who unfortunately often use macOS. I was exploring the > possibility of Guix on Darwin, but the best way to do that looks like > running Guix System inside Docker: > I haven't tried with MacOS yet but a few ideas: - Try using the QEMU image available (or create your own VirtualBox image - I've tried this and it worked OK). - If running a full graphical env is too clunky for you could experiment wi= th multipass. I haven't tried this yet on multipass but I've had some success running Guix inside WSL2 (very similar to multipass) on Windows using busybox and these instructions: https://github.com/giuliano108/guix-packages/blob/master/notes/Guix-on-WSL2= .md It's a bit 'beta', but I use this when I want fast local access to a Guix environment from a Windows desktop without having yet-another-foreign-distro (eg Ubuntu-on-WSL) in-between.=20 - I'm not expert on this but I suspect you could produce a slimmed down version of Guix more akin to the WSL experience using the 'guix system vm-image' command. Check-out the manual. Having something that worked with multipass and WSL2 directly on the Guix website would be extremely useful in drawing a crowd from non-Linux users! So this would be a noble endeavour IMHO. If you get anything working I'd be very interested. Of course this isn't substitute for running on Darwin as a foreign distro, but I'm unaware of any current project to do that. I suspect it would be challenging to get package definitions working for substantially different compiler flags etc, it would almost become a separate project. It has been discussed tho - follow the links in this post to see discussio= ns on guix-devel too: https://www.reddit.com/r/GUIX/comments/c2xei5/any_way_to_have_guix_running_= as_a_package_manager/