From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id uAGVH1GTGl+GBAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 07:52:49 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id 2LdyG1GTGl+xfwAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 07:52:49 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D35EE940214 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 07:52:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:45978 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jysVb-00047c-4F for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 03:52:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55036) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jyqTA-0004N9-2g; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 01:42:08 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60981) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jyqT7-0001Pw-K4; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 01:42:05 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4895 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jyqT6-0004sF-7I; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 01:42:04 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 08:41:47 +0300 Message-Id: <83wo2teag4.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Dmitry Alexandrov In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Alexandrov on Fri, 24 Jul 2020 03:06:53 +0300) Subject: Re: No Guile on Windows? (was: My Guile Hacker Handbook) References: <3364bc82b7660df3ae8613cdadef8b9dac2fe416.camel@korwin-zmijowski.fr> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 03:52:40 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guile-user@gnu.org, help-guix@gnu.org Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.01 X-TUID: OZzUxwG3kAoD > From: Dmitry Alexandrov > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 03:06:53 +0300 > Cc: Guile User , Guix Help > > > ## Installation > > > ### On Windows > > > > No solution yet. > > Is that true? Itʼs true (and a pity) that there no official packages, of course, but ‘no solution’? > > I vaguely recall, there was a Guile on MinGW a couple of years ago, does it no longer build? And what happened with Cygwin package after all? cygwin.com says, that 3.0.4 is there [1]. https://sourceforge.net/projects/ezwinports/files/guile-2.0.11-2-w32-bin.zip/download Mind you, this is a 32-bit build, and it is configured without threads (because building with threads produces Guile that crashes for almost any non-trivial operation, you can find the details in the Guile mailing list archives). I never tried to build a newer Guile, as doing a fully-functional MinGW port is a non-trivial endeavor that consumes a lot of time, and I don't have that time now. Sadly, Guile seems to care only about one OS: GNU/Linux, and more or less disregard the rest. Features are added that clearly cannot easily work on other OSes, let alone non-Posix ones, and with each such new feature producing a working MinGW port becomes harder and harder, even for experienced hackers. Please don't bother replying to this rant, it's just FYI, to convey my personal recollections and experiences from doing the 2.0.x port, and I don't intend to argue about it.