lookup which file can be found in which package

lookup which file can be found in which package

[W. T. Meyer]

Hi everyone,

Is there a quick way in Guix to figure out which package provides which
file similar to what other package managers provide with dnf
provides/apt-file search/nix-locate etc.?

So far I haven't found a command doing this reading documentation, but
maybe there's a way to query the substitute servers if a certain file
can be found? nix has nix-index/nix-locate to query if a binary cache
has a derivation containing a specific file; which would roughly be what
I'm looking for in Guix as well.

Regards,

Wilko Meyer

Re: lookup which file can be found in which package

[W. T. Meyer]

"W. T. Meyer" <w@wmeyer.eu> writes:

> Is there a quick way in Guix to figure out which package provides which
> file similar to what other package managers provide with dnf
> provides/apt-file search/nix-locate etc.?

There's an open patch for a guix index command mention on the
guix-patches mailing list:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-patches/2023-03/msg01210.html

I guess this answers my question.

- Wilko

Re: lookup which file can be found in which package

[Soren Stoutner via]

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This would be a nice feature that I hope gets implemented some day.

On Friday, June 2, 2023 2:45:28 PM MST W. T. Meyer wrote:
> "W. T. Meyer" <w@wmeyer.eu> writes:
> > Is there a quick way in Guix to figure out which package provides which
> > file similar to what other package managers provide with dnf
> > provides/apt-file search/nix-locate etc.?
> 
> There's an open patch for a guix index command mention on the
> guix-patches mailing list:
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-patches/2023-03/msg01210.html
> 
> I guess this answers my question.
> 
> - Wilko


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Soren Stoutner
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Re: lookup which file can be found in which package

[Edouard Klein]

My usual method is first: guix search, then: grep -ri in a checkout of
the source, and last searching the web for the package name in other
distros, and a bit of guesswork. It usually endup in a *-utils or
*-tools package.

From a computer science standpoint this is an interesting problem.

The content of the store is the output of a program, so
discovering what it is reduces to the Halting Problem, which can't be
solved by automatic means for all packages.

Of course most packages are nicely coded, and grep usually find the
answer. Nevertheless, the only way to solve this for all packages would
be to install all packages and grep the store... i.e. run all programs
to completion and look at the output.

If you build a program to analyze the package code before it is
executed, one can always build a pathological package that will make it
fail (the canonical example would be a package that incorporates the
code of the checker, runs the checker on itself, and chose the answer
that makes the checker fail, but one can make a package whose output
depends on the Riemann conjecture being false, for example).

Cheers,



Soren Stoutner via <help-guix@gnu.org> writes:

> [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]]
> This would be a nice feature that I hope gets implemented some day.
>
> On Friday, June 2, 2023 2:45:28 PM MST W. T. Meyer wrote:
>> "W. T. Meyer" <w@wmeyer.eu> writes:
>> > Is there a quick way in Guix to figure out which package provides which
>> > file similar to what other package managers provide with dnf
>> > provides/apt-file search/nix-locate etc.?
>>
>> There's an open patch for a guix index command mention on the
>> guix-patches mailing list:
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-patches/2023-03/msg01210.html
>>
>> I guess this answers my question.
>>
>> - Wilko

Re: lookup which file can be found in which package

[Soren Stoutner via]

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Edouard,

On Saturday, June 3, 2023 11:13:25 AM MST you wrote:
> Of course most packages are nicely coded, and grep usually find the
> answer. Nevertheless, the only way to solve this for all packages would
> be to install all packages and grep the store... i.e. run all programs
> to completion and look at the output.


Debian solves this problem by doing exactly that, and then making the output searchable 
as a web service:


https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages[1]

In my opinion, this would be a really nice addition to https://packages.guix.gnu.org/[2].

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Soren Stoutner
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[1] https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
[2] https://packages.guix.gnu.org/

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