From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: znavko@disroot.org Subject: Re: Why did those credit managers start to burn my phone after I visited bank? Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 18:32:38 +0000 Message-ID: <6f7302efc6753a230e5679aba23eb645@disroot.org> References: <20200330173610.GB6896@jasmine.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45663) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jIzDN-0006LA-87 for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 14:32:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jIzDL-0002hV-VO for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 14:32:49 -0400 Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:55738) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jIzDG-0002ee-Mq for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 14:32:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20200330173610.GB6896@jasmine.lan> List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: Leo Famulari Cc: help-guix Sorry for mention of trade marks.=0AI am interested in =0Adevices with su= ch characteristics cpu speed, memory, battery, weight and UIX,=0Aapplicat= ions that will be useful for me and other not programmers,=0Asome good pr= actices.=0A=0A=0A=0AMarch 30, 2020 5:36 PM, "Leo Famulari" wrote:=0A=0A> It's not related to Guix, but places like retail shop= s, banks, etc host=0A> phone location tracking equipment that is used to = target advertising.=0A> =0A> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:33:10AM +0000, zn= avko@disroot.org wrote:=0A> =0A>> Hello, dear Guix hackers! I want to und= erstand how they could get my phone number.=0A>> =0A>> Last week I've vis= ited a bank and spent there an hour waiting they make a payment to custom= .=0A>> I had Redmi Mi 9T smartphone in my hands, Android 10 QKQ 1.190825.= 002,=0A>> MIUI Global 11.0.4 Stable 11.0.4.0 (QFJMIXM)=0A>> =0A>> Waiting= in the bank, I uploaded one video on YouTube channel on which=0A>> my ph= one is in the contacts.=0A>> 4g connection was so slow that I spent time = waiting percent by percent of uploading.=0A>> =0A>> I use mobile operator= Beeline. In Russia I have no any operator I can believe,=0A>> but this i= s less problematic from all, cause its managers are not oligarchs.=0A>> = =0A>> After two hours I came back home I received two calls from differen= t=0A>> money credit companies=0A>> (just like "fast money", "take money a= nd go away that way")=0A>> and one SMS from another company.=0A>> =0A>> A= nd the next day three calls more and two SMS with offers of money credit.= =0A>> =0A>> Those were robots autocallers.=0A>> =0A>> I'd never used that= phone number where I've got calls, and never took credits,=0A>> never ga= ve that my phone number anywhere=0A>> (cause I usually use another phone = number).=0A>> =0A>> This case shows not free software and not free hardwa= re adds bothers.=0A>> =0A>> This may be so:=0A>> =0A>> 1) They can track = phones with Geo data (but I have switched off Geo location)=0A>> 2) They = may invade bank workers phones with viruses that=0A>> connect with client= s phones, get clients phone numbers and send this info.=0A>> 3) They may = track mobile operator data (4g) from antennas=0A>> 4) Also the same mobil= e operator may sell info which client locate near that=0A>> antenna near = the bank=0A>> 5) May be some of my applications does track me.=0A>> =0A>>= How do you think?=0A>> =0A>> Do you use Telegram, Whatsapp?=0A>> =0A>> I= s it comfortable to use jami, tox chat?