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(in package coq, version 8.11.2) To: zimoun , help-guix@gnu.org, yasu From: Julien Lepiller Message-ID: <6A74F875-3E74-444B-94DD-ECDB4BAF1069@lepiller.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=89.234.186.109; envelope-from=julien@lepiller.eu; helo=lepiller.eu X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1616284409; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=J96lB7UxBStYOu7a/xqT8P7Dqnhe0xl6Jzp5SYPrLqA=; b=ZOyoyJ6z/mup0B9Kv2a84Xsmx9WVo2/Sv3N8loNSBoAqSH6TUcQrV1pg0VRWX5xjAhwya5 mSOxj69y6ZuQrVxW+dpmCe688RmnEASawxZ7DwrNh8IcXFo7M0N71kOOnaRt8WzLiIqknm bdtt7FdCnrzjGk4XUgFvkzpxynKtbOmqVux2JiBchMWYtENj91d84YkSJE+NwhOSL0LLwW dWfVY/RqTgbqQr0zgDLawTIbWgfr+xbUcBa7UQoQqzu24+cVeduwer/9iewnI4O10b240Z 2k7nhGQvnZ91SQ4UcvhharfqEG1R/LVRs+ug+jyI0gi1vqttJwpv45W6N/8yag== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1616284409; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=bcQg+DdR0Mh/LFbO701J53WimhJCw6PaP6m16fVtBsJSRTGCtWN8xtjuOt8kvq0vuTbZqT VnUU4YxpWsw1lGpRvTuFlpALmHF5ZnSN0SfB3YlyvYw5VroSqbMG4PEgbvrIDq0eoeQg4O 40i7pG/8gwE4Y+YOSUdkksQ1BTM/6pnEMcfuL13voil1oRo89q35fkDyv/8gvEO5D7d6xC 9+tll3TXr4nWGMvPKtKU3iqBVQt/fk2X5UyPs2ucijw4bAwPtQ8mbCn8Jc1RhIGfu1tDw9 mUnV6AX3/y4OxXxxNHs12sCSKPtOXuoSDwdvYcKSttzfiIa6510XxG5mX72Thw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("body hash did not verify") header.d=lepiller.eu header.s=dkim header.b=DqTo7Mli; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.31 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("body hash did not verify") header.d=lepiller.eu header.s=dkim header.b=DqTo7Mli; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=lepiller.eu (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 66A1C20B4F X-Spam-Score: -1.31 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Zzuc1gnPUjmK guix size coq -> 869=2E7 MB guix size coq:ide -> 1557=2E0 MB Almost twice as much, because this brings in graphical dependencies=2E Sep= arating packages to multiple outputs can reduce the closure size of some ou= tputs, but if you build the package, you get the same number of dependencie= s as if there were a single output=2E You have everything to gain if you ge= t substitutes, and nothing to lose if you don't have any or want to use the= more expensive output=2E Le 20 mars 2021 12:39:20 GMT-04:00, zimoun = a =C3=A9crit : >Hi Julien, > >On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 at 06:48, Julien Lepiller >wrote: > >> This is not a bug: coqide brings a lot of dependencies, so it's in a > >What do you mean? > >--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >$ guix package -i coq -n >The following package would be installed: > coq 8=2E11=2E2 > >125=2E8 MB would be downloaded > >$ guix package -i coq:ide -n >The following package would be installed: > coq:ide 8=2E11=2E2 > >125=2E8 MB would be downloaded > >$ guix package -i coq coq:ide -n >The following packages would be installed: > coq 8=2E11=2E2 > coq:ide 8=2E11=2E2 > >125=2E8 MB would be downloaded >--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > >> separate output, as you can see with guix search or guix show=2E To >> install it, install the ide output, like so:=20 >> >> guix install coq:ide > >I am always confused by these multi-outputs packages, as git:send-email >or coq:ide or th recent =E2=80=9Cocaml-z3=E2=80=9C=2E They often increas= e the number of >build-time dependencies and they are less discoverable, IMHO=2E > >They make sense for -doc or -debug but otherwise they appear to me >confusing=2E > > >Cheers, >simon