From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id sHhsAUWKvF80NQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 04:21:25 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id aIoVOUSKvF/VGwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 04:21:24 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DCFA9402DD for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 04:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:37692 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khPpR-0003VE-IM for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 23:21:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59938) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khPp9-0003Ut-MC for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 23:21:03 -0500 Received: from mail1.g12.pair.com ([66.39.4.99]:41104) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khPp0-0007E4-3n for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 23:21:03 -0500 Received: from mail1.g12.pair.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.g12.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4892973198; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 23:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.3.101.16] (pw126166013148.31.panda-world.ne.jp [126.166.13.148]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail1.g12.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D1997731A9; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 23:20:45 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Yasuaki Kudo Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Can Guix support Zen 2/AMD Ryzen? Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 13:20:42 +0900 Message-Id: <5FE03577-E8E5-4B28-8E17-976087DC2A4A@yasuaki.com> References: <94fa6e136ac69235e6d3ddbefb1e068a@dismail.de> In-Reply-To: <94fa6e136ac69235e6d3ddbefb1e068a@dismail.de> To: jbranso@dismail.de X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18B92) Received-SPF: none client-ip=66.39.4.99; envelope-from=yasu@yasuaki.com; helo=mail1.g12.pair.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: help-guix@gnu.org, Jesse Gibbons Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.49 X-TUID: ZnQjRMOYsHsX Hi, Not that I have any solution (sorry...) but a similar blackout happened when= I removed the regular linux kernel (using nonguix channel) and tried the na= tive Libre kernel for Guix, some months ago. I immediately went back to the= original Linux... My PC has both Ryzen CPU and AMD video card. Cheers, Yasu > On Nov 24, 2020, at 11:32, jbranso@dismail.de wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFI am kind of shooting from the hip here, others may be more knowl= edgeable than me, but here is my two cents. >=20 > As a general rule, any "brand new hardware" (except server grade hardware a= nd Intel hardware) generally needs 3-6+ months before it has good Linux supp= ort. So you may run into issues using the latest and greatest thing. >=20 > If you want a good GPU, then you might check out this: https://www.phoroni= x.com/scan.php?page=3Dnews_item&px=3DNouveau-K2020-Low-End-Card It's a $50= graphics card that works with the libre nvidia driver (nouveau). I think y= ou have to manually set the clock frequency though...All AMD graphics cards a= re virtually useless on the Linux libre kernel. AMD has proprietary firmwar= e, which Linux libre disables. Nvidia is as bad. I think the integrated gr= aphics from Intel works fairly well with Linux libre. >=20 > I've also run into that booting issue. I think there is a way to disable f= ancy graphics rendering during the installer, which is what I had to do, to g= et guix to run on my AMD APU a few years ago. Maybe someone here can point o= ut how to do that, because I'm blanking on the specifics. =20 >=20 > If you are trying to game on Linux libre, you will probably run into some i= ssues. :( >=20 > November 23, 2020 4:38 PM, "Jesse Gibbons" wrote:= >=20 >> Hi guix, >> I built a guix image for a hardware enthusiast friend to try on his compu= ters, in part to see how >> well/completely his more modern hardware would run guix and if it would b= e worth commissioning him >> to build me a computer. It successfully booted, but the screens turned bl= ank and didn't show gdm. >> My friend tried this twice, and the same thing happened. He tried ctrl+al= t+f{1..6} and didn't see >> anything (though he has a weird keyboard that requires him to hold a modi= fier key to enter any >> function key). He suggested it might be because his computer has a Ryzen C= PU with the Zen 2 >> Architecture, which he knows might need to work around. Since it booted f= ine, I think it might be >> more related to his Nvidia GPU. Is there anything I can do, without resor= ting to proprietary >> solutions, to make a guix image with a desktop at least displays with his= hardware? >> -Jesse >=20