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* How do I install neovim plugins?
@ 2020-09-19 14:04 Yasuaki Kudo
  2020-09-19 14:40 ` Julien Lepiller
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Yasuaki Kudo @ 2020-09-19 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-guix

I see some vim plugin packages for guix but I have no idea how I enable them in the neovim (nvim) that I installed in Guix.

In NixOS I just used "home manager" and modified some existing template I found to add more plugins.



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* Re: How do I install neovim plugins?
  2020-09-19 14:04 How do I install neovim plugins? Yasuaki Kudo
@ 2020-09-19 14:40 ` Julien Lepiller
  2020-09-19 23:18   ` yasu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Julien Lepiller @ 2020-09-19 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-guix, Yasuaki Kudo

If you install plugins in your profile, you can add:

set runpath+=/home/user/.guix-profile/share/nvim/site

In your .config/nvem/init.vim

I also have a guix-home-manager at https://framagit.org/tyreunom/guix-home-manager but it's more involved.


Le 19 septembre 2020 10:04:45 GMT-04:00, Yasuaki Kudo <yasu@yasuaki.com> a écrit :
>I see some vim plugin packages for guix but I have no idea how I enable
>them in the neovim (nvim) that I installed in Guix.
>
>In NixOS I just used "home manager" and modified some existing template
>I found to add more plugins.

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* Re: How do I install neovim plugins?
  2020-09-19 14:40 ` Julien Lepiller
@ 2020-09-19 23:18   ` yasu
  2020-09-19 23:41     ` Julien Lepiller
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: yasu @ 2020-09-19 23:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julien Lepiller; +Cc: help-guix

Hi Julien,

Thank you for the pointer, here is what I did to make it work:

    set runtimepath+=/home/yasu/.guix-profile/share/vim/vimfiles

The plugin and neovim were installed as below:

guix package --install=vim-airline
guix package --install=nvim

But this seems rather "imperative" and is not what I expected to do,
after spending many weeks trying home-manager from NixOS :-)

excerpt from .config/nixpkgs/home.nix
...
   programs.neovim = {
     enable = true;
     plugins = [
       pkgs.vimPlugins.vim-airline
       pkgs.vimPlugins.vim-nix
     ];
...

In the Nix world, I think people were not seeing much point of:

     nix-env -i

which seems to be their equivalent of:

    guix package --install=

As an alternative, 'home-manger' seemed popular.

Would you say the same for Guix as well?

-Yasu



On 19.09.2020 23:40, Julien Lepiller wrote:
> If you install plugins in your profile, you can add:
> 
> set runpath+=/home/user/.guix-profile/share/nvim/site
> 
> In your .config/nvem/init.vim
> 
> I also have a guix-home-manager at
> https://framagit.org/tyreunom/guix-home-manager but it's more
> involved.
> 
> Le 19 septembre 2020 10:04:45 GMT-04:00, Yasuaki Kudo
> <yasu@yasuaki.com> a écrit :
> 
>> I see some vim plugin packages for guix but I have no idea how I
>> enable them in the neovim (nvim) that I installed in Guix.
>> 
>> In NixOS I just used "home manager" and modified some existing
>> template I found to add more plugins.


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* Re: How do I install neovim plugins?
  2020-09-19 23:18   ` yasu
@ 2020-09-19 23:41     ` Julien Lepiller
  2020-09-20  0:17       ` John Soo
  2020-09-20  0:19       ` Yasuaki Kudo
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Julien Lepiller @ 2020-09-19 23:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: yasu; +Cc: help-guix



Le 19 septembre 2020 19:18:14 GMT-04:00, yasu@yasuaki.com a écrit :
>Hi Julien,
>
>Thank you for the pointer, here is what I did to make it work:
>
>    set runtimepath+=/home/yasu/.guix-profile/share/vim/vimfiles
>
>The plugin and neovim were installed as below:
>
>guix package --install=vim-airline
>guix package --install=nvim

Great! Glad I could help :)

>
>But this seems rather "imperative" and is not what I expected to do,
>after spending many weeks trying home-manager from NixOS :-)
>
>excerpt from .config/nixpkgs/home.nix
>...
>   programs.neovim = {
>     enable = true;
>     plugins = [
>       pkgs.vimPlugins.vim-airline
>       pkgs.vimPlugins.vim-nix
>     ];
>...
>
>In the Nix world, I think people were not seeing much point of:
>
>     nix-env -i
>
>which seems to be their equivalent of:
>
>    guix package --install=
>
>As an alternative, 'home-manger' seemed popular.
>
>Would you say the same for Guix as well?

I agree, this is very imperative, but since we don't have an equivalent of the home manager (except for my channel which is not very popular because I don't recommend it for everyday use), this the kind of thing we usually do.

Actually, the most popular in guix is rather to set some *PATH environment variable, sometimes even patching the software to honor them. But we don't have any for neovim.

The equivalent of your home.nix example would be:

(user-home
  neovim-home-type
  (neovim-confiquration
    (plugins (list neovim-airline neovim-nix))))

(Assuming we actually have these packages)

The guix home manager follows the spirit of functionnal management closer than the nix home manager, because itqmakes your entire home a symlink to a store path, whereas nix home only overwrites some files that can later be modified imperatively (by you or a software). That makes it harder to use and breaks many software, but is much more satisfying :)

>
>-Yasu
>
>
>
>On 19.09.2020 23:40, Julien Lepiller wrote:
>> If you install plugins in your profile, you can add:
>> 
>> set runpath+=/home/user/.guix-profile/share/nvim/site
>> 
>> In your .config/nvem/init.vim
>> 
>> I also have a guix-home-manager at
>> https://framagit.org/tyreunom/guix-home-manager but it's more
>> involved.
>> 
>> Le 19 septembre 2020 10:04:45 GMT-04:00, Yasuaki Kudo
>> <yasu@yasuaki.com> a écrit :
>> 
>>> I see some vim plugin packages for guix but I have no idea how I
>>> enable them in the neovim (nvim) that I installed in Guix.
>>> 
>>> In NixOS I just used "home manager" and modified some existing
>>> template I found to add more plugins.


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* Re: How do I install neovim plugins?
  2020-09-19 23:41     ` Julien Lepiller
@ 2020-09-20  0:17       ` John Soo
  2020-09-20  0:33         ` Yasuaki Kudo
  2020-09-20  0:19       ` Yasuaki Kudo
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: John Soo @ 2020-09-20  0:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julien Lepiller; +Cc: help-guix

Hello Yasu,

I use a manifest file and guix-package -m to do declarative installations. 

I find it strikes a nice balance between having to rebuild for every configuration change and making my environment declarative. 

Good luck!

- John

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* Re: How do I install neovim plugins?
  2020-09-19 23:41     ` Julien Lepiller
  2020-09-20  0:17       ` John Soo
@ 2020-09-20  0:19       ` Yasuaki Kudo
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Yasuaki Kudo @ 2020-09-20  0:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julien Lepiller; +Cc: help-guix

Well perhaps I will try your home manager and we can even improve it 😄

I want to spend some time learning Guix - I think highly composable/customizable software is what many organizations desire and is the area that is underserved - because many software vendors are not interested, half-interested with ulterior motives, or outright against it 😅

GNU Guix seems to address both philosophical and technological shortcomings of our society. 

> On Sep 20, 2020, at 08:41, Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Le 19 septembre 2020 19:18:14 GMT-04:00, yasu@yasuaki.com a écrit :
>> Hi Julien,
>> 
>> Thank you for the pointer, here is what I did to make it work:
>> 
>>   set runtimepath+=/home/yasu/.guix-profile/share/vim/vimfiles
>> 
>> The plugin and neovim were installed as below:
>> 
>> guix package --install=vim-airline
>> guix package --install=nvim
> 
> Great! Glad I could help :)
> 
>> 
>> But this seems rather "imperative" and is not what I expected to do,
>> after spending many weeks trying home-manager from NixOS :-)
>> 
>> excerpt from .config/nixpkgs/home.nix
>> ...
>>  programs.neovim = {
>>    enable = true;
>>    plugins = [
>>      pkgs.vimPlugins.vim-airline
>>      pkgs.vimPlugins.vim-nix
>>    ];
>> ...
>> 
>> In the Nix world, I think people were not seeing much point of:
>> 
>>    nix-env -i
>> 
>> which seems to be their equivalent of:
>> 
>>   guix package --install=
>> 
>> As an alternative, 'home-manger' seemed popular.
>> 
>> Would you say the same for Guix as well?
> 
> I agree, this is very imperative, but since we don't have an equivalent of the home manager (except for my channel which is not very popular because I don't recommend it for everyday use), this the kind of thing we usually do.
> 
> Actually, the most popular in guix is rather to set some *PATH environment variable, sometimes even patching the software to honor them. But we don't have any for neovim.
> 
> The equivalent of your home.nix example would be:
> 
> (user-home
>  neovim-home-type
>  (neovim-confiquration
>    (plugins (list neovim-airline neovim-nix))))
> 
> (Assuming we actually have these packages)
> 
> The guix home manager follows the spirit of functionnal management closer than the nix home manager, because itqmakes your entire home a symlink to a store path, whereas nix home only overwrites some files that can later be modified imperatively (by you or a software). That makes it harder to use and breaks many software, but is much more satisfying :)
> 
>> 
>> -Yasu
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19.09.2020 23:40, Julien Lepiller wrote:
>>> If you install plugins in your profile, you can add:
>>> 
>>> set runpath+=/home/user/.guix-profile/share/nvim/site
>>> 
>>> In your .config/nvem/init.vim
>>> 
>>> I also have a guix-home-manager at
>>> https://framagit.org/tyreunom/guix-home-manager but it's more
>>> involved.
>>> 
>>> Le 19 septembre 2020 10:04:45 GMT-04:00, Yasuaki Kudo
>>> <yasu@yasuaki.com> a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> I see some vim plugin packages for guix but I have no idea how I
>>>> enable them in the neovim (nvim) that I installed in Guix.
>>>> 
>>>> In NixOS I just used "home manager" and modified some existing
>>>> template I found to add more plugins.


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* Re: How do I install neovim plugins?
  2020-09-20  0:17       ` John Soo
@ 2020-09-20  0:33         ` Yasuaki Kudo
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Yasuaki Kudo @ 2020-09-20  0:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: John Soo; +Cc: help-guix

Hi John,

Ah I see let me try this as well!

I need to do some gardening right now but will try after that 😄

Yasu

> On Sep 20, 2020, at 09:17, John Soo <jsoo1@asu.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello Yasu,
> 
> I use a manifest file and guix-package -m to do declarative installations. 
> 
> I find it strikes a nice balance between having to rebuild for every configuration change and making my environment declarative. 
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> - John


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