From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id qEMbJrbirl+yFwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 19:47:02 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id ED7CIbbirl9rFwAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 19:47:02 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBAE49405D2 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 19:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:57498 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdf2A-00005o-Sx for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:46:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50104) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdeBL-0002H0-GK for help-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 13:52:23 -0500 Received: from a.siauliai.hyperbola.info ([2a02:e00:ffe7:6::1]:38128 helo=smtp.hyperbola.info) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdeBI-0002ZM-Fs for help-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 13:52:23 -0500 Received: by smtp.hyperbola.info (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 5493f90c (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) auth=yes user=adfeno for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Zoom To: help-guix References: Message-ID: <58ea7271-1384-c671-5a3f-e110504d14c4@hyperbola.info> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 15:51:43 -0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dUUD7yIyvNPrmLBEjLdZxOzqL5gVMlkWb" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a02:e00:ffe7:6::1; envelope-from=adfeno@hyperbola.info; helo=smtp.hyperbola.info X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. 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X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_FAIL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:46:47 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" Reply-to: Adonay Felipe Nogueira From: Adonay Felipe Nogueira via X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.61 X-TUID: GbEixM0eRMZ9 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --dUUD7yIyvNPrmLBEjLdZxOzqL5gVMlkWb Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MNImvNk23Z2UV7dktITgq1uTND072jEp1" --MNImvNk23Z2UV7dktITgq1uTND072jEp1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Em 13/11/2020 15:15, Roy Lemmon escreveu: > Can anyone give me hints on getting Zoom installed with sound ? Unless I'm mistaken, this is related to the software described in [1], right? If that is the case, then the Guix community won't be able to officially help in this matter. Computers are somewhat dumb, they understand only 0s and 1s. However, humans cannot easily tell what these do, they need ways to both inspect what is being, make changes, share and sell any of these, all of which is made easy if the copyright holder of the work (Zoom Video Communications, Inc and many others) were to distribute the source code in any customary mean of file distribution, along with a license that guarantees such rights to everyone. In other words, it's tempting for the copyright holder to keep these rights to themselves, due to the possibility for abusing the users of the software. So, in the world of computers, for any work/data that can be used practically/functionally (not just software), you as a user have only two possibilities: either you exercise collective control of the data, so that you can call upon others to help you do so when you're incapable of; or someone controls the data and can misuse this position to limit what you can do. So, the Guix community won't be able to do much here due to the fact that the copyright holder of Zoom did not give you, and us all, the essential freedoms of the software, that is: the freedom to use it for any purpose (freedom 0); to study and adapt it for any purpose, and reuse de adaptations (freedom 1); to share and sell unlimited copies of the original (freedom 2); and to do the same as 2, but for modified copie= s. Guix being a project and a community committed to the Free System Distribution Guidelines of the GNU project (GNU FSDG or simply FSDG) ([2]), cannot assist on the matters exclusively related to non-free functiona/practical work/data, or those not mentioned in this message that are still mentioned in the FSDG. In short, the official Guix repositories, documentation, and the community won't be able to help. However, excluding the kludge made by the copyright holders of Zoom, there's no technological measures stopping you from using this thing. It's advisable that you don't foster usage of this stuff by others. # References [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_(software) . 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