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Message-Id: <506EEA75-0A98-4F04-9BC2-C7588FF9A65C@yasuaki.com> To: help-guix X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (19D52) Received-SPF: none client-ip=66.39.4.99; envelope-from=yasu@yasuaki.com; helo=mail1.g12.pair.com X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1646774237; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=W1hKtwFEhYlNbLkRm+p4lPFzCiWhDO8YhcP4yTIuj48=; b=hZ3N1ATYFT+rAHja+lcR7hw38iFXlqv5vddFR/qZNhj2eYJFDP/RmyrCTdS9/AHtJlRoR+ IrTEv6W18zazMbMq8KXJqpoQ+SRTUqq+LeKnXDznuY2n4cBPoD8rweqFz5CJ7LqVArCDAh vkWvIrrPEsvibrZGfcgtU3tPhw2F0KChiyxKesmSC0j1FaLwvLpOXV4b0MoUD3ycytkU7F EEYicEZYXtKjrUMIjiq4MqvRyUgjonUe1IYwobiSaUZKhc92+hMGSUx3PNbOYxnWI6zH0a Faf729jat4dnoBPaX0atZlHYaPclRJBXCerSCOxcJr0G1XvmA8L6jKxn4aJEEQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1646774237; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=m+mcPcKmgWZU9p9gCPQTk2mQ992TKTR6gwATZNfoqYDjD1iX4svwzcLwnPp1pfIbpYtBQj C/vVuccEPP+DUnUB+3xJMM+AcXjpBmvMC6NR4KwkTy1PBRmn9Icga1n+0gHaE5IwZ7DhJA ueQmw+W3KX9znq/OS+TRO2ffWrJnUjGiQEbqZ5cHreMjuYycNFtcu/HJcmDGrGwMpzFbUu Xg1ZihBbYQe/EHfqJKkTD4UcS+V/neTZk8rJ/5dea6H2O2iwlb1ea/T6uuAen+k5FpjHT1 EvOwjd2Xs+iLwvCdHkv1eV/QruauUfnDkhY8kwctCGG4XDJmvDWir5cSmepnjg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.62 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 543743CCD2 X-Spam-Score: -1.62 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 6rEg6tPG6pCd Hi, In many so-called Application Support jobs in the enterprises, one of the co= re responsibilities is to see through the daily completion of "batch jobs" -= those I/O heavy processes that take a long time to run, even with parallel p= rocessing. And at the core of it is to "re-run" the jobs, after due troubleshooting. In many workplaces I have seen, teams ended up writing their own job schedul= ers based on cron or used proprietary software such as Autosys (and in Japan= , there are local brews such as A-Auto, if I remember the name correctly). But none of the solutions above take good care of the mechanical incremental= computation aspect and a lot of optimization (say skip this and that becaus= e they don't matter during re-runs) depend on the operators' sweat and judge= ment =F0=9F=98=85 =20 =20 Can Guix be put into good use in this area do you think? Or maybe another w= ay of asking this question is, can Guix be used a general compiler such as '= make'? Knowing that 'make' still exists so - is there any reason why Guix j= ust can't take over? Maybe similar questions have been already asked in the Nix world as well? I= would love to know! =F0=9F=98=84 -Yasu