100 % derivation available at bordeaux and Berlin, but package Musescore has to be built on my laptop

100 % derivation available at bordeaux and Berlin, but package Musescore has to be built on my laptop

[Gottfried]

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Hi Guixers,

when I did a
guix package -u

and also
when I checked it beforehand
with
guix package --upgrade --dry-run
if 100 % derivations are available ( I did this the last 4 times)

nevertheless
the music notation program "MuseScore" had to be built on my laptop.
With my 64 GB CPU it took 1 hour (I did it twice).

But why is it built on my laptop if the derivations are 100 % available 
and I was not informed that e.g. MuseScore will be built at my laptop.

The same with the package "calibre".

Gottfried

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Re: 100 % derivation available at bordeaux and Berlin, but package Musescore has to be built on my laptop

[jbranso]

September 27, 2022 1:52 PM, "Gottfried" <gottfried@posteo.de> wrote:

> Hi Guixers,
> 
> when I did a
> guix package -u
> 
> and also
> when I checked it beforehand
> with
> guix package --upgrade --dry-run
> if 100 % derivations are available ( I did this the last 4 times)
> 
> nevertheless
> the music notation program "MuseScore" had to be built on my laptop.
> With my 64 GB CPU it took 1 hour (I did it twice).
> 
> But why is it built on my laptop if the derivations are 100 % available 
> and I was not informed that e.g. MuseScore will be built at my laptop.
> 
> The same with the package "calibre".

Just out of curiosity...you've got an X86_64 laptop right?
> 
> Gottfried

Re: 100 % derivation available at bordeaux and Berlin, but package Musescore has to be built on my laptop

[Gottfried]

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> Just out of curiosity...you've got an X86_64 laptop right?
>>>

Yes

Gottfried


Am 07.10.22 um 20:46 schrieb jbranso@dismail.de:
> September 27, 2022 1:52 PM, "Gottfried" <gottfried@posteo.de> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Guixers,
>>
>> when I did a
>> guix package -u
>>
>> and also
>> when I checked it beforehand
>> with
>> guix package --upgrade --dry-run
>> if 100 % derivations are available ( I did this the last 4 times)
>>
>> nevertheless
>> the music notation program "MuseScore" had to be built on my laptop.
>> With my 64 GB CPU it took 1 hour (I did it twice).
>>
>> But why is it built on my laptop if the derivations are 100 % available
>> and I was not informed that e.g. MuseScore will be built at my laptop.
>>
>> The same with the package "calibre".
> 
> Just out of curiosity...you've got an X86_64 laptop right?
>>
>> Gottfried

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Re: 100 % derivation available at bordeaux and Berlin, but package Musescore has to be built on my laptop

[jbranso]

October 7, 2022 3:50 PM, "Gottfried" <gottfried@posteo.de> wrote:

>> Just out of curiosity...you've got an X86_64 laptop right?
> 
> Yes
> 
> Gottfried
> 
> Am 07.10.22 um 20:46 schrieb jbranso@dismail.de:
> 
>> September 27, 2022 1:52 PM, "Gottfried" <gottfried@posteo.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Guixers,
>>> 
>>> when I did a
>>> guix package -u
>>> 
>>> and also
>>> when I checked it beforehand
>>> with
>>> guix package --upgrade --dry-run
>>> if 100 % derivations are available ( I did this the last 4 times)
>>> 
>>> nevertheless
>>> the music notation program "MuseScore" had to be built on my laptop.
>>> With my 64 GB CPU it took 1 hour (I did it twice).
>>> 
>>> But why is it built on my laptop if the derivations are 100 % available
>>> and I was not informed that e.g. MuseScore will be built at my laptop.
>>> 
>>> The same with the package "calibre".
>> 
>> Just out of curiosity...you've got an X86_64 laptop right?
>>> Gottfried

Hmmm,  I was thinking that you had perhaps you had a weird arch that did
not have substitues built often...

Re: 100 % derivation available at bordeaux and Berlin, but package Musescore has to be built on my laptop

[zimoun]

Hi,

On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 at 17:45, Gottfried <gottfried@posteo.de> wrote:

> guix package --upgrade --dry-run
> if 100 % derivations are available ( I did this the last 4 times)
>
> nevertheless
> the music notation program "MuseScore" had to be built on my laptop.
> With my 64 GB CPU it took 1 hour (I did it twice).
>
> But why is it built on my laptop if the derivations are 100 % available 
> and I was not informed that e.g. MuseScore will be built at my laptop.

Well, it is hard to tell with this information.  What was the Guix
revision? (guix describe)

Maybe because an issue with build farms (outage on Sept. 21rst).

Have you checked with the command “guix weather musescore calibre”?



Cheers,
simon

Re: 100 % derivation available at bordeaux and Berlin, but package Musescore has to be built on my laptop

[Gottfried]

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Hi Guixers,

it is strange to me, or may be I don't understand something yet,

because yesterday there were 100 % substitutes available in Berlin and 
Bordeaux,

but 31 packages would have been to be built locally.

In the last month there were more and more packages which would have to 
be built locally.

Does somebody know why?

Gottfried

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Re: 100 % derivation available at bordeaux and Berlin, but package Musescore has to be built on my laptop

[Gottfried]

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> Well, it is hard to tell with this information.  What was the Guix
>> revision? (guix describe)
>> 
>> Maybe because an issue with build farms (outage on Sept. 21rst).
>> 
>> Have you checked with the command “guix weather musescore calibre”?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> simon
>> 

If I do what you said then those things come up:

gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix describe
Generation 42	07. Oktober 2022 19:18:16	(aktuell)
   guix 0c49661
     Repository-URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
     Branch: master
     Commit: 0c4966160054bc50e6ab3a4ac9c9a6a1826ab5a0
gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix weather musescore calibre
2 Paketableitungen für x86_64-linux werden berechnet …
Nach 2 Store-Objekten von https://ci.guix.gnu.org wird gesucht …
https://ci.guix.gnu.org ☀
   100.0% Substitute verfügbar (2 von 2)
   Mindestens 115,5 MiB an Nars (komprimiert)
   133,9 MiB auf der Platte (unkomprimiert)
   0,214 Sekunden pro Anfrage (0,4 Sekunden insgesamt)
   4,7 Anfragen pro Sekunde

   Mindestens 1.000 Erstellungen in der Warteschlange
       powerpc64le-linux: 402 (40.2%)
       i686-linux: 12 (1.2%)
       aarch64-linux: 585 (58.5%)
       x86_64-linux: 1 (.1%)
   Erstellungsgeschwindigkeit: 355.42 Erstellungen pro Stunde
       x86_64-linux: 159.94 Erstellungen pro Stunde
       i686-linux: 199.53 Erstellungen pro Stunde
       aarch64-linux: 4.05 Erstellungen pro Stunde
Nach 2 Store-Objekten von https://bordeaux.guix.gnu.org wird gesucht …
https://bordeaux.guix.gnu.org ⛅
   50.0% Substitute verfügbar (1 von 2)
   28,9 MiB an Nars (komprimiert)
   59,4 MiB auf der Platte (unkomprimiert)
   0,185 Sekunden pro Anfrage (0,4 Sekunden insgesamt)
   5,4 Anfragen pro Sekunde
   (Keine Informationen zu kontinuierlicher Integration verfügbar)


Gottfried



Am 08.10.22 um 01:43 schrieb zimoun:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 at 17:45, Gottfried <gottfried@posteo.de> wrote:
> 
>> guix package --upgrade --dry-run
>> if 100 % derivations are available ( I did this the last 4 times)
>>
>> nevertheless
>> the music notation program "MuseScore" had to be built on my laptop.
>> With my 64 GB CPU it took 1 hour (I did it twice).
>>
>> But why is it built on my laptop if the derivations are 100 % available
>> and I was not informed that e.g. MuseScore will be built at my laptop.
> 
> 


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Re: 100 % derivation available at bordeaux and Berlin, but package Musescore has to be built on my laptop

[zimoun]

Hi,

On Sat, 08 Oct 2022 at 08:44, Gottfried <gottfried@posteo.de> wrote:

> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix weather musescore calibre
> 2 Paketableitungen für x86_64-linux werden berechnet …
> Nach 2 Store-Objekten von https://ci.guix.gnu.org wird gesucht …
> https://ci.guix.gnu.org ☀
>    100.0% Substitute verfügbar (2 von 2)

Then when you run,

    guix build musescore calibre

Guix starts to locally build?  Hum, that’s unexpected.


Cheers,
simon

Re: 100 % derivation available at bordeaux and Berlin, but package Musescore has to be built on my laptop

[jbranso]

October 8, 2022 4:33 AM, "Gottfried" <gottfried@posteo.de> wrote:

> Hi Guixers,
> 
> it is strange to me, or may be I don't understand something yet,
> 
> because yesterday there were 100 % substitutes available in Berlin and 
> Bordeaux,
> 
> but 31 packages would have been to be built locally.
> 
> In the last month there were more and more packages which would have to 
> be built locally.
> 
> Does somebody know why?

I get that from time to time.  Probably at least once a month.  I imagine
 there was some change to master 
that triggered some rebuilds and CI has not caught up yet.

> 
> Gottfried