Thanks Julien, Ok i see, like you say jpoiret also say me that the concept are orthogonal, so if i understand well : - adding emacs as system package, i suppose this is available for all users - adding emacs as home package, i suppose this is available only for me And *guix install something* install for which, system or home or both ? Some other general questions : - About dotfile management, is it possible to use chezmoi, yadm, stow in // of guix home ? I'm interested by some example if you have. - About secrets management, i know this is very complicated in nix (there are one hundred way to do the things, more or less secure), how that works if i want to inject *secrets* into guix home scm file and maintain security when i share or publish my config with/to others ? Thanks, Best regards Le 11/05/2022 à 17:48, Julien Lepiller a écrit : > Guix home and guix system are pretty similar as they are used to > declaratively manage configuration. But, they are not mutually > exclusive. Guix system is the only way to install and update the Guix > System (hence the name ;)). > > Guix home manages your user's configuration (in /home) while guix > system manages the system's configuration (traditionally in /etc, > though less true for guix). The two are acting in a very similar on > two different things. > > Also, you can use guix home on a foreign distro, or choose to not use > guix home on the Guix System. > > HTH! > > On May 11, 2022 4:55:23 PM GMT+02:00, "Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq" > wrote: > > Hi, > > My other question remain about guix home / guix system relation, and sudo, but jpoiret found my main problem, my channels.scm are not well defined / not good ... > > - I made (cons * (channel ...)) (cons* (channel ...)) etc. > > - and .. the correct way is (cons * (channel ...) (channel ...)) > > Everything run fine now with *guix system reconfigure /.config/guix/system.scm* > > Best > > Le 11/05/2022 à 16:36, Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq a écrit : > > Hi, Thanks Julien, I see on the doc that *sudo* run command as > user and not as root like other distro. So, to be sure, if i > run *sudo guix something*, i don't change user to run this > command isn't it ? Actually i only work with my account > "myuser" into group ("users","wheel",etc.) using or not using > *sudo* (this is not clear when i need or not) for running > *guix* command. About the commands with > /.config/guix/channels.scm (see content here > https://paste.debian.net/1240553)  : a) *guix describe* and > *sudo guix describe* and *sudo -E guix describe* return > Génération 7    11 mai 2022 16:01:25    (actuelle)   guix > d24ad39     URL du dépôt : > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git     branche : master >     commit : d24ad3949127a938cad306f0524c120afe5e2e4f b) *guix > system describe* return Génération 7    10 mai 2022 > 12:39:34    (actuelle)   nom de fichier : > /var/guix/profiles/system-7-link   nom de fichier canonique : > /gnu/store/az1ff4ll80dbrbkayc4y0jqgnc2m37mp-system   étiquette > : GNU with Linux 5.17.5   chargeur de démarrage : grub-efi   > périphérique racine : /dev/mapper/cryptroot   noyau : > /gnu/store/0ffifgs0ixgz0bf1pcahkfdkx9f7h720-linux-5.17.5/bzImage >   canaux :     nonguix:       URL du dépôt : > https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix       branche : master >       commit : 1de0c32142c54bc73af5556d5e45c77152b31f0f     > guix:       URL du dépôt : > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git       branche : > master       commit : d775a24344d4a910f6a19072c595bdafcf104b6f >   fichier de configuration : > /gnu/store/idr8ds86m69gbx217g5h3qm6m353wliz-configuration.scm > c) *guix home describe* return Génération 1    10 mai 2022 > 16:59:14    (actuelle)   nom de fichier : > /var/guix/profiles/per-user/reyman/guix-home-1-link   nom de > fichier canonique : > /gnu/store/3q599hyjkx8c5ywsdy2gqfmx2bjzgzmm-home   canaux : >     flat:       URL du dépôt : > https://github.com/flatwhatson/guix-channel.git       branche > : master       commit : > 094746c1e2e90f2df1e598ab1fd0abb4d75ce84d     guix:       URL > du dépôt : https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git       > branche : master       commit : > 0f705472126f7b935e0783bcd8fec831b7a0593b   fichier de > configuration : > /gnu/store/ip90ffd0bzlr7j6kw5ky2pgxpyq1x23c-configuration.scm > With jpoiret, i try to resolve the issue on chat, i also try > to run manually *guix pull -C ./config/guix/channels.scm* > without success. A *command -v guix* return > */home/myuser/.config/current/bin/guix* Best regards, SR Le > 11/05/2022 à 12:47, Julien Lepiller a écrit : > > Hi Sébastien, When you run guix describe, it's running the > guix for your user, which miggt be different from the one > you run when you use sudo. That could explain why the > modules are not found. I don't think guix home has > anything to do with that. I noticed that the first time > you use sudo -E, whereas you use only sudo on step 5. > Mayée that's why it fails? I would run sudo guix describe > and sudo -E guix describe to see how the two might be > different from your user's guix :) HTH! On May 11, 2022 > 11:09:19 AM GMT+02:00, "Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq" > wrote:     Hi > Guix people :)     I'm starting guix, picking information > when needed into documentation.     I'm facing > difficulties with channels.scm since i start using "guix > home", i read the doc page, but i need some other things > to understand.     Here my logic to start just after > install :     1 - I modify my //etc/guix/channels.scm/ > file to add some modules : /nonguix/ (my computer don't > work well without) and /emacs-native-dep/ from flatwhatson > flat channel.     2 - I /guix -E guix system reconfigure > /etc/config.scm/, /guix pull/, and everything goes well >     3 - Like explained in the doc, I run /guix home import > ~/src/guix-config /that generate /a > //home-configuration.scm//     /     /4 - /Into > /home-configuration.scm///i add the package htop and > /emacs-native-comp/     5 - In the guix home doc the next > command is /guix home reconfigure config.scm /but this is > probably a typo and i run /guix home reconfigure > ~/src/guix-config/home-configuration.scm/     6 - > Everything goes well, emacs-native-dep compile during 1 > hour, problems arrive after that.     7 - I'm moving the > //etc/guix/config.scm/ and //etc/guix/channels.scm /to my > home /~/.config/guix/ , /and i run /sudo guix system > reconfigure ~/.config/guix/system.scm///*, that fail*/, > /it seems the module (nongnu and emacs-native-dep) are not > referenced, like the error say /"no code for module ( > nongnu ..." /But when i run /guix system describe/, the > corresponding channel are well defined. /     /     After > that, i try many thing, like moving channels.scm and > system.scm back to /etc/guix/ but every reconfigure > command fail in link with channel/module not recognized > (emacs-native-dep or nongnu)     - /guix home reconfigure > ~/src/guix-config/home-configuration.scm/     - /guix > system reconfigure ~/.config/guix/system.scm/     - /guix > system reconfigure ~/etc/guix/config.scm/     So my > question is first, why that fail after switching to guix > home ? and how and where i need to define/set correctly > the /channel.scm/ file to repair that ?     For example, > /guix system//describe/ and /guix home describe/ and /guix > describe/ return all different channel referenced, how i > manage that ?     I suppose there is a "workflow to use > well guix home"? but this is not actually in the doc. For > example, perhaps after creating and switching to guix home > profile, running guix system is impossible or prohibited ? > I suppose this will be added in the future.     Thanks a > lot for your help. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >     Sebastien Rey-C     // >