From: "Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq" <sebastien.rey-coyrehourcq@univ-rouen.fr>
To: Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu>, help-guix@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Guix home, guix system, channels, some noob questions
Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 10:40:18 +0200 [thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: <357B4763-2DA0-4255-9E58-B882E8ED1A9A@lepiller.eu>
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Thanks Julien,
Ok i see, like you say jpoiret also say me that the concept are
orthogonal, so if i understand well :
- adding emacs as system package, i suppose this is available for all users
- adding emacs as home package, i suppose this is available only for me
And *guix install something* install for which, system or home or both ?
Some other general questions :
- About dotfile management, is it possible to use chezmoi, yadm, stow in
// of guix home ?
I'm interested by some example if you have.
- About secrets management, i know this is very complicated in nix
(there are one hundred way to do the things, more or less secure), how
that works if i want to inject *secrets* into guix home scm file and
maintain security when i share or publish my config with/to others ?
Thanks,
Best regards
Le 11/05/2022 à 17:48, Julien Lepiller a écrit :
> Guix home and guix system are pretty similar as they are used to
> declaratively manage configuration. But, they are not mutually
> exclusive. Guix system is the only way to install and update the Guix
> System (hence the name ;)).
>
> Guix home manages your user's configuration (in /home) while guix
> system manages the system's configuration (traditionally in /etc,
> though less true for guix). The two are acting in a very similar on
> two different things.
>
> Also, you can use guix home on a foreign distro, or choose to not use
> guix home on the Guix System.
>
> HTH!
>
> On May 11, 2022 4:55:23 PM GMT+02:00, "Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq"
> <sebastien.rey-coyrehourcq@univ-rouen.fr> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> My other question remain about guix home / guix system relation, and sudo, but jpoiret found my main problem, my channels.scm are not well defined / not good ...
>
> - I made (cons * (channel ...)) (cons* (channel ...)) etc.
>
> - and .. the correct way is (cons * (channel ...) (channel ...))
>
> Everything run fine now with *guix system reconfigure /.config/guix/system.scm*
>
> Best
>
> Le 11/05/2022 à 16:36, Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq a écrit :
>
> Hi, Thanks Julien, I see on the doc that *sudo* run command as
> user and not as root like other distro. So, to be sure, if i
> run *sudo guix something*, i don't change user to run this
> command isn't it ? Actually i only work with my account
> "myuser" into group ("users","wheel",etc.) using or not using
> *sudo* (this is not clear when i need or not) for running
> *guix* command. About the commands with
> /.config/guix/channels.scm (see content here
> https://paste.debian.net/1240553) : a) *guix describe* and
> *sudo guix describe* and *sudo -E guix describe* return
> Génération 7 11 mai 2022 16:01:25 (actuelle) guix
> d24ad39 URL du dépôt :
> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git branche : master
> commit : d24ad3949127a938cad306f0524c120afe5e2e4f b) *guix
> system describe* return Génération 7 10 mai 2022
> 12:39:34 (actuelle) nom de fichier :
> /var/guix/profiles/system-7-link nom de fichier canonique :
> /gnu/store/az1ff4ll80dbrbkayc4y0jqgnc2m37mp-system étiquette
> : GNU with Linux 5.17.5 chargeur de démarrage : grub-efi
> périphérique racine : /dev/mapper/cryptroot noyau :
> /gnu/store/0ffifgs0ixgz0bf1pcahkfdkx9f7h720-linux-5.17.5/bzImage
> canaux : nonguix: URL du dépôt :
> https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix branche : master
> commit : 1de0c32142c54bc73af5556d5e45c77152b31f0f
> guix: URL du dépôt :
> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git branche :
> master commit : d775a24344d4a910f6a19072c595bdafcf104b6f
> fichier de configuration :
> /gnu/store/idr8ds86m69gbx217g5h3qm6m353wliz-configuration.scm
> c) *guix home describe* return Génération 1 10 mai 2022
> 16:59:14 (actuelle) nom de fichier :
> /var/guix/profiles/per-user/reyman/guix-home-1-link nom de
> fichier canonique :
> /gnu/store/3q599hyjkx8c5ywsdy2gqfmx2bjzgzmm-home canaux :
> flat: URL du dépôt :
> https://github.com/flatwhatson/guix-channel.git branche
> : master commit :
> 094746c1e2e90f2df1e598ab1fd0abb4d75ce84d guix: URL
> du dépôt : https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
> branche : master commit :
> 0f705472126f7b935e0783bcd8fec831b7a0593b fichier de
> configuration :
> /gnu/store/ip90ffd0bzlr7j6kw5ky2pgxpyq1x23c-configuration.scm
> With jpoiret, i try to resolve the issue on chat, i also try
> to run manually *guix pull -C ./config/guix/channels.scm*
> without success. A *command -v guix* return
> */home/myuser/.config/current/bin/guix* Best regards, SR Le
> 11/05/2022 à 12:47, Julien Lepiller a écrit :
>
> Hi Sébastien, When you run guix describe, it's running the
> guix for your user, which miggt be different from the one
> you run when you use sudo. That could explain why the
> modules are not found. I don't think guix home has
> anything to do with that. I noticed that the first time
> you use sudo -E, whereas you use only sudo on step 5.
> Mayée that's why it fails? I would run sudo guix describe
> and sudo -E guix describe to see how the two might be
> different from your user's guix :) HTH! On May 11, 2022
> 11:09:19 AM GMT+02:00, "Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq"
> <sebastien.rey-coyrehourcq@univ-rouen.fr> wrote: Hi
> Guix people :) I'm starting guix, picking information
> when needed into documentation. I'm facing
> difficulties with channels.scm since i start using "guix
> home", i read the doc page, but i need some other things
> to understand. Here my logic to start just after
> install : 1 - I modify my //etc/guix/channels.scm/
> file to add some modules : /nonguix/ (my computer don't
> work well without) and /emacs-native-dep/ from flatwhatson
> flat channel. 2 - I /guix -E guix system reconfigure
> /etc/config.scm/, /guix pull/, and everything goes well
> 3 - Like explained in the doc, I run /guix home import
> ~/src/guix-config /that generate /a
> //home-configuration.scm// / /4 - /Into
> /home-configuration.scm///i add the package htop and
> /emacs-native-comp/ 5 - In the guix home doc the next
> command is /guix home reconfigure config.scm /but this is
> probably a typo and i run /guix home reconfigure
> ~/src/guix-config/home-configuration.scm/ 6 -
> Everything goes well, emacs-native-dep compile during 1
> hour, problems arrive after that. 7 - I'm moving the
> //etc/guix/config.scm/ and //etc/guix/channels.scm /to my
> home /~/.config/guix/ , /and i run /sudo guix system
> reconfigure ~/.config/guix/system.scm///*, that fail*/,
> /it seems the module (nongnu and emacs-native-dep) are not
> referenced, like the error say /"no code for module (
> nongnu ..." /But when i run /guix system describe/, the
> corresponding channel are well defined. / / After
> that, i try many thing, like moving channels.scm and
> system.scm back to /etc/guix/ but every reconfigure
> command fail in link with channel/module not recognized
> (emacs-native-dep or nongnu) - /guix home reconfigure
> ~/src/guix-config/home-configuration.scm/ - /guix
> system reconfigure ~/.config/guix/system.scm/ - /guix
> system reconfigure ~/etc/guix/config.scm/ So my
> question is first, why that fail after switching to guix
> home ? and how and where i need to define/set correctly
> the /channel.scm/ file to repair that ? For example,
> /guix system//describe/ and /guix home describe/ and /guix
> describe/ return all different channel referenced, how i
> manage that ? I suppose there is a "workflow to use
> well guix home"? but this is not actually in the doc. For
> example, perhaps after creating and switching to guix home
> profile, running guix system is impossible or prohibited ?
> I suppose this will be added in the future. Thanks a
> lot for your help.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Sebastien Rey-C //
>
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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-11 9:09 Guix home, guix system, channels, some noob questions Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq
2022-05-11 10:47 ` Julien Lepiller
2022-05-11 14:36 ` Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq
2022-05-11 14:55 ` Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq
2022-05-11 15:48 ` Julien Lepiller
2022-05-12 8:40 ` Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq [this message]
2022-05-12 9:28 ` Julien Lepiller
2022-05-12 12:32 ` Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq
2022-05-17 7:26 ` Daniel Meißner
2022-05-17 8:01 ` Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq
2022-05-17 8:57 ` Daniel Meißner
2022-05-17 9:20 ` Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq
2022-05-17 10:15 ` Daniel Meißner
2022-05-17 16:02 ` Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq
2022-05-25 13:34 ` Daniel Meißner
2022-05-25 18:45 ` Efraim Flashner
2022-07-11 6:06 ` Joshua Branson
2022-05-26 0:31 ` Dominic Martinez
2022-06-01 20:38 ` Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq
2022-06-12 19:32 ` sebastien rey-coyrehourcq
2022-06-13 19:31 ` Dominic Martinez
2022-06-14 10:36 ` Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq
2022-05-11 21:56 ` Mekeor Melire
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