How to reconfigure system without downloads I did not order?

How to reconfigure system without downloads I did not order?

[znavko--- via]

Hello! I have a little incomprehension that make solving a simple task so slow.

I just want to say Guix to mount newly inserted SSD (3rd from all) after every start.

I have just edited /root/config-2-disks.conf placing these lines:

(operating-system (host-name "antelope") (timezone "Europe/Moscow") (locale "en_US.utf8")
 (bootloader (bootloader-configuration (bootloader grub-efi-bootloader) (target "/boot/efi")))
 (file-systems (cons*
 (file-system (device "/dev/sda1") (mount-point "/boot/efi") (type "vfat"))
 (file-system (device "/dev/sda2") (mount-point "/") (type "ext4"))
 (file-system (device "/dev/sdb1") (mount-point "/home/bob/disk1") (type "ext4"))
 (file-system (device "/dev/sdc1") (mount-point "/home/bob/disk2") (type "ext4"))
 %base-file-systems))
The process of reconfiguration fails every time sometimes on downloading linux-libre, sometimes libwnck:
# guix system reconfigure /root/config-2-disks.conf
...
downloading from https://ci.guix.gnu.org/nar/lzip/4v3c26b84jgxz0gar0n75dy47hxl213y-libmbim-1.20.2 ...
 libmbim-1.20.2 262KiB 700KiB/s 00:00 [##################] 100.0%

downloading from https://ci.guix.gnu.org/nar/lzip/jb5rq36y60dam3h0bmwp1g7hcaqnbfgn-ffmpeg-4.3.1 ...
 ffmpeg-4.3.1 8.8MiB 991KiB/s 00:09 [##################] 100.0%

downloading from https://ci.guix.gnu.org/nar/lzip/k9rlni2yafzz79kqm4b0rx7r0h0bhq70-libqmi-1.24.14 ...
 libqmi-1.24.14 1.5MiB 975KiB/s 00:02 [##################] 100.0%

guix substitute: error: connect: Connection timed out
substitution of /gnu/store/r28zc1yn6aw5jnij6jap45lr4fnvd7hs-alsa-plugins-1.2.2 failed
killing process 3824
guix system: error: some substitutes for the outputs of derivation `/gnu/store/zkynj525l0xvy8j3j6x7lb6k7da98qsr-alsa-plugins-1.2.2.drv' failed (usually happens due to networking issues); try `--fallback' to build derivation from source
root@antelope ~# guix system reconfigure /root/config-2-disks.conf
46.1 MB will be downloaded
downloading from https://ci.guix.gnu.org/nar/lzip/smjm2hv2lwi1hhb9kzkkras55qzl6yf8-linux-libre-headers-5.4.20 ...
 linux-libre-headers-5.4.20 1.0MiB 276KiB/s 00:04 [##################] 100.0%
# guix system reconfigure /root/config-2-disks.conf
...
downloading from https://ci.guix.gnu.org/nar/lzip/f6biy2lp9b5nhpr1h94npbfngjhqayxr-startup-notification-0.12 ...
 startup-notification-0.12 33KiB 2.9MiB/s 00:00 [##################] 100.0%

downloading from https://ci.guix.gnu.org/nar/lzip/867mz9gqk8x2p0b58z0zkys65pghwdwl-upower-0.99.11 ...
 upower-0.99.11 179KiB 630KiB/s 00:00 [##################] 100.0%

guix substitute: error: connect: Connection timed out
substitution of /gnu/store/84ys8zyxzn231q9y27kysxyyzy41kd14-libwnck-3.32.0 failed
killing process 4220
guix system: error: some substitutes for the outputs of derivation `/gnu/store/n8sm20aswfjqscp70p4njvj50h5vnk8v-thunar-1.8.16.drv' failed (usually happens due to networking issues); try `--fallback' to build derivation from source
root@antelope ~# guix system reconfigure --help
Usage: guix system [OPTION ...] ACTION [ARG ...] [FILE]
Build the operating system declared in FILE according to ACTION.
Some ACTIONS support additional ARGS.
I am sorry. How to prevent the process of system upgrade and just remain things as they are but only adding new disk to my system?

Re: How to reconfigure system without downloads I did not order?

[Tobias Geerinckx-Rice]

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Hullo znavko,

znavko--- via 写道：
> I am sorry. How to prevent the process of system upgrade and 
> just remain things as they are but only adding new disk to my 
> system?

Guix can't upgrade your system, it can only build a new one.  It 
will merely re-use parts of the old system that they have in 
common (which can be and often is ‘almost everything’).

This is actually significant: you can't ask a new Guix to modify 
an older Guix's system, to leave everything in place but just add 
this one small thing, like you can for bare profiles.  For that, 
you need to reconfigure the old system with the same version of 
Guix that was used to build it.

What do

  $ guix system describe

and

  $ guix describe

say?  My guess is they will both display a different commit 
because you've ‘guix pull’ed after creating the system.  If so, 
you can use

  $ guix time-machine --commit=<system commit> -- system 
  reconfigure …

to apply your changes.

If the system and guix commits *do* match and you've added nothing 
besides a new FILE-SYSTEM, I have no idea why Guix is 
(re-)building ffmpeg.  An overzealous ‘guix gc’ in the meantime?

Kind regards,

T G-R

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Re: How to reconfigure system without downloads I did not order?

[znavko]

I think you're good hacker, but I'm still using bandy hands.
Yes, you are right, I made gc and deleted all previous generations 2 days ago, 
and now Guix has nothing work with.
And I'm still in front of network a problem and cannot just apply new config file:

Is a flag 'build from source' can help me? Or what else to try here?

# guix describe
Generation 36	Nov 28 2020 13:14:53	(current)
  guix 2950161
    repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
    branch: master
    commit: 295016183caa4943522125528b81ad8c67787ca1

# guix time-machine --commit=a99ddf3e7ac436e75fcee0345f931b5d7f767e36 -- system reconfigure /root/config-2-disks.conf 
Updating channel 'guix' from Git repository at 'https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git'...
downloading from https://ci.guix.gnu.org/nar/lzip/1k566b3kc3ljzlllfh2ay9rr4sxpdfpg-module-import ...
 module-import  2KiB                                                                                      135KiB/s 00:00 [##################] 100.0%

downloading from https://ci.guix.gnu.org/nar/lzip/az6z71bxl5syzqrhjdpfll8fm8c1gsnc-module-import-compiled ...
 module-import-compiled  1.5MiB                                                                           778KiB/s 00:02 [##################] 100.0%

downloading from https://ci.guix.gnu.org/nar/gzip/qfmrmg6gk6iz0p14i0sg1rzxlgpb897i-compute-guix-derivation ...
 compute-guix-derivation  859B                                                                            651KiB/s 00:00 [##################] 100.0%

Computing Guix derivation for 'x86_64-linux'... /
substitute: updating substitutes from 'https://ci.guix.gnu.org'... 100.0%
The following derivations will be built:
   /gnu/store/866y2mqlnbrn1fy36cph8m1x2qyvbq1q-profile.drv
   /gnu/store/0arc9pk8gv6g5z1dk3235n3mhxd7lyi5-profile.drv
   /gnu/store/3kq0mkc9gxrrkmmgn0y1av4sly2b8p9v-inferior-script.scm.drv
The following profile hooks will be built:
   /gnu/store/la6zjqddp3h7d344ikk8s4z1pkyszrcw-fonts-dir.drv
   /gnu/store/pi12azwkj1l8qf6llgaga2wmd45bxh2b-ca-certificate-bundle.drv
   /gnu/store/zryagqw16vprsyvikwbi6izw64ngkpp4-guix-package-cache.drv
building CA certificate bundle...
building fonts directory...
building profile with 1 package...
building /gnu/store/3kq0mkc9gxrrkmmgn0y1av4sly2b8p9v-inferior-script.scm.drv...
building package cache...
building profile with 1 package...
guix system: warning: Consider running 'guix pull' followed by
'guix system reconfigure' to get up-to-date packages and security updates.

52.8 MB will be downloaded

guix substitute: error: connect: Connection timed out
substitution of /gnu/store/755az7pdnzhvihdb85gkd39sh33ip5lh-geoclue-2.5.6 failed
killing process 1358
guix system: error: some substitutes for the outputs of derivation `/gnu/store/fn5z69q4ljdwl2rbr3hvj9rfyrkjrj9a-geoclue-2.5.6.drv' failed (usually happens due to networking issues); try `--fallback' to build derivation from source 




# guix system list-generations
Generation 26	Oct 03 2020 18:11:27
  file name: /var/guix/profiles/system-26-link
  canonical file name: /gnu/store/hi1p8zrb53lfc228wk5ppm3072fy508q-system
  label: GNU with Linux-Libre 5.8.12
  bootloader: grub-efi
  root device: /dev/sda2
  kernel: /gnu/store/dkyzczi2cp27by3kssbhg8nv4g9hjk1f-linux-libre-5.8.12/bzImage
  channels:
    guix:
      repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
      branch: master
      commit: 36045fa6d6f6ed240bf26d3040846533e9e35e82
  configuration file: /gnu/store/b8lqcvy8jlp2wax1w970qrvyj7p0fvwq-configuration.scm
Generation 27	Oct 07 2020 00:17:45
  file name: /var/guix/profiles/system-27-link
  canonical file name: /gnu/store/r09ywhsxlix1s022hbgca9pj4csbgs45-system
  label: GNU with Linux-Libre 5.8.12
  bootloader: grub-efi
  root device: /dev/sda2
  kernel: /gnu/store/dkyzczi2cp27by3kssbhg8nv4g9hjk1f-linux-libre-5.8.12/bzImage
  channels:
    guix:
      repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
      branch: master
      commit: 36045fa6d6f6ed240bf26d3040846533e9e35e82
  configuration file: /gnu/store/466lzskgjywblzds3rsa7cv5kx5brhkg-configuration.scm
Generation 28	Oct 03 2020 18:11:27
  file name: /var/guix/profiles/system-28-link
  canonical file name: /gnu/store/hi1p8zrb53lfc228wk5ppm3072fy508q-system
  label: GNU with Linux-Libre 5.8.12
  bootloader: grub-efi
  root device: /dev/sda2
  kernel: /gnu/store/dkyzczi2cp27by3kssbhg8nv4g9hjk1f-linux-libre-5.8.12/bzImage
  channels:
    guix:
      repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
      branch: master
      commit: 36045fa6d6f6ed240bf26d3040846533e9e35e82
  configuration file: /gnu/store/b8lqcvy8jlp2wax1w970qrvyj7p0fvwq-configuration.scm
Generation 29	Oct 21 2020 00:40:49
  file name: /var/guix/profiles/system-29-link
  canonical file name: /gnu/store/mjxyp3bsfvmgicva1d85dxa2mlgg9n9z-system
  label: GNU with Linux-Libre 5.8.16
  bootloader: grub-efi
  root device: /dev/sda2
  kernel: /gnu/store/cyarhgh3j6nhz8xhhbs6qhy0iry1gg8x-linux-libre-5.8.16/bzImage
  channels:
    guix:
      repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
      branch: master
      commit: f14f108853a948fe21fe9bebfd295084b97a53e1
  configuration file: /gnu/store/b8lqcvy8jlp2wax1w970qrvyj7p0fvwq-configuration.scm
Generation 30	Oct 31 2020 23:48:30
  file name: /var/guix/profiles/system-30-link
  canonical file name: /gnu/store/k34z5xal5hwvxk6nnhcll1if7k4wr4f2-system
  label: GNU with Linux-Libre 5.9.2
  bootloader: grub-efi
  root device: /dev/sda2
  kernel: /gnu/store/dni49zhdnmmy6y0isgh71yjhrmj31j37-linux-libre-5.9.2/bzImage
  channels:
    guix:
      repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
      branch: master
      commit: d7e033b9a153a9e60f52ff64f4eb355c1c3d0a6e
  configuration file: /gnu/store/b8lqcvy8jlp2wax1w970qrvyj7p0fvwq-configuration.scm
Generation 31	Nov 14 2020 17:47:12
  file name: /var/guix/profiles/system-31-link
  canonical file name: /gnu/store/fxbkh4yv3cka01y3xhw4jwlw2kc22rxq-system
  label: GNU with Linux-Libre 5.9.8
  bootloader: grub-efi
  root device: /dev/sda2
  kernel: /gnu/store/jrgkcfd5lxrljirwqkv29jcdipha2vkc-linux-libre-5.9.8/bzImage
  channels:
    guix:
      repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
      branch: master
      commit: 870d74ab6883196b269382b86b6e48a1cc7ac8ae
  configuration file: /gnu/store/b8lqcvy8jlp2wax1w970qrvyj7p0fvwq-configuration.scm
Generation 32	Nov 21 2020 13:41:06	(current)
  file name: /var/guix/profiles/system-32-link
  canonical file name: /gnu/store/w1z5yl7fnpg2663s6kpjsddb0yazjr8s-system
  label: GNU with Linux-Libre 5.9.9
  bootloader: grub-efi
  root device: /dev/sda2
  kernel: /gnu/store/i0yqm9bz9734swkk2ii39gvs634m20f5-linux-libre-5.9.9/bzImage
  channels:
    guix:
      repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
      branch: master
      commit: a99ddf3e7ac436e75fcee0345f931b5d7f767e36
  configuration file: /gnu/store/b8lqcvy8jlp2wax1w970qrvyj7p0fvwq-configuration.scm




November 28, 2020 12:14 PM, "Tobias Geerinckx-Rice" <me@tobias.gr> wrote:

> Hullo znavko,
> 
> znavko--- via 写道：
> 
>> I am sorry. How to prevent the process of system upgrade and
>> just remain things as they are but only adding new disk to my
>> system?
> 
> Guix can't upgrade your system, it can only build a new one. It
> will merely re-use parts of the old system that they have in
> common (which can be and often is ‘almost everything’).
> 
> This is actually significant: you can't ask a new Guix to modify
> an older Guix's system, to leave everything in place but just add
> this one small thing, like you can for bare profiles. For that,
> you need to reconfigure the old system with the same version of
> Guix that was used to build it.
> 
> What do
> 
> $ guix system describe
> 
> and
> 
> $ guix describe
> 
> say? My guess is they will both display a different commit
> because you've ‘guix pull’ed after creating the system. If so,
> you can use
> 
> $ guix time-machine --commit=<system commit> -- system
> reconfigure …
> 
> to apply your changes.
> 
> If the system and guix commits *do* match and you've added nothing
> besides a new FILE-SYSTEM, I have no idea why Guix is
> (re-)building ffmpeg. An overzealous ‘guix gc’ in the meantime?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> T G-R

Re: How to reconfigure system without downloads I did not order?

[znavko]

I restarted the process of reconfigure (usual without additional flags and hacks)
for abput 25 times and at last it downloaded everything and finished successfully.

I think Guix needs good infrastructure and some
mechanism of checking optimal mirrors and recommendations for using them.

To add new disk into system with such a bad lucks is a very bottle neck of this powerful system.


November 28, 2020 12:14 PM, "Tobias Geerinckx-Rice" <me@tobias.gr> wrote:

> Hullo znavko,
> 
> znavko--- via 写道：
> 
>> I am sorry. How to prevent the process of system upgrade and
>> just remain things as they are but only adding new disk to my
>> system?
> 
> Guix can't upgrade your system, it can only build a new one. It
> will merely re-use parts of the old system that they have in
> common (which can be and often is ‘almost everything’).
> 
> This is actually significant: you can't ask a new Guix to modify
> an older Guix's system, to leave everything in place but just add
> this one small thing, like you can for bare profiles. For that,
> you need to reconfigure the old system with the same version of
> Guix that was used to build it.
> 
> What do
> 
> $ guix system describe
> 
> and
> 
> $ guix describe
> 
> say? My guess is they will both display a different commit
> because you've ‘guix pull’ed after creating the system. If so,
> you can use
> 
> $ guix time-machine --commit=<system commit> -- system
> reconfigure …
> 
> to apply your changes.
> 
> If the system and guix commits *do* match and you've added nothing
> besides a new FILE-SYSTEM, I have no idea why Guix is
> (re-)building ffmpeg. An overzealous ‘guix gc’ in the meantime?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> T G-R

Re: How to reconfigure system without downloads I did not order?

[jbranso]

There is some code for guix that will allow guix to distribute software updates over IPFS.  You are welcome to contribute to that!

I believe that there is also some work that will allow people to fetch software updates over GNUnet.

Both of these proposals would allow users from all over the world to publish software updates to others, like torrent-ing works.

November 28, 2020 1:03 PM, znavko@disroot.org wrote:

> I restarted the process of reconfigure (usual without additional flags and hacks)
> for abput 25 times and at last it downloaded everything and finished successfully.
> 
> I think Guix needs good infrastructure and some
> mechanism of checking optimal mirrors and recommendations for using them.
> 
> To add new disk into system with such a bad lucks is a very bottle neck of this powerful system.
> 
> November 28, 2020 12:14 PM, "Tobias Geerinckx-Rice" <me@tobias.gr> wrote:
> 
>> Hullo znavko,
>> 
>> znavko--- via 写道：
>> 
>>> I am sorry. How to prevent the process of system upgrade and
>>> just remain things as they are but only adding new disk to my
>>> system?
>> 
>> Guix can't upgrade your system, it can only build a new one. It
>> will merely re-use parts of the old system that they have in
>> common (which can be and often is ‘almost everything’).
>> 
>> This is actually significant: you can't ask a new Guix to modify
>> an older Guix's system, to leave everything in place but just add
>> this one small thing, like you can for bare profiles. For that,
>> you need to reconfigure the old system with the same version of
>> Guix that was used to build it.
>> 
>> What do
>> 
>> $ guix system describe
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> $ guix describe
>> 
>> say? My guess is they will both display a different commit
>> because you've ‘guix pull’ed after creating the system. If so,
>> you can use
>> 
>> $ guix time-machine --commit=<system commit> -- system
>> reconfigure …
>> 
>> to apply your changes.
>> 
>> If the system and guix commits *do* match and you've added nothing
>> besides a new FILE-SYSTEM, I have no idea why Guix is
>> (re-)building ffmpeg. An overzealous ‘guix gc’ in the meantime?
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> T G-R