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From: Adonay Felipe Nogueira via <help-guix@gnu.org>
To: help-guix@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why Mozilla Firefox is nonfree? (was: Vanilla Firefox recipe?)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 14:31:31 -0300 (GMT-03:00)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <225915422.1590600329049.org.dystopia.email@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eer63qkg.dag@gnui.org>

As far as I know not even Chromium is free/libre, see https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Chromium . Also I would recommend all to ask the FSF about the freedom issues with Firefox. -- * Ativista do software livre * https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno * Membro dos grupos avaliadores de * Software (Free Software Directory) * Distribuições de sistemas (FreedSoftware) * Sites (Free JavaScript Action Team) * Não sou advogado e não fomento os não livres * Sempre veja o spam/lixo eletrônico do teu e-mail * Ou coloque todos os recebidos na caixa de entrada * Sempre assino e-mails com OpenPGP * Chave pública: vide endereço anterior * Qualquer outro pode ser fraude * Se não tens OpenPGP, ignore o anexo "signature.asc" * Ao enviar anexos * Docs., planilhas e apresentações: use OpenDocument * Outros tipos: vide endereço anterior * Use protocolos de comunicação federadas * Vide endereço anterior * Mensagens secretas somente via * XMPP com OMEMO * E-mail criptografado e assinado com OpenPGP Wed May 27 02:16:47 GMT-03:00 2020 Dmitry Alexandrov <dag@gnui.org>: Christopher Lemmer Webber wrote: > I'm not sure it's really accurate to categorize asking for a vanilla copy of firefox, which might not comply with the FSDG, as nonfree software. The primary issue with Firefox that makes it qualify as "nonfree" is that the add-ons tool brings you to something that might guide a user towards nonfree software right? Nope. Firefox, as distributed by Mozilla, is simply not a free software. Just reread the agreement with Mozilla [0] you are supposed to abide. You are _not_ free even to redistribute _exact_ copies of it, let aside distributing modified ones: | You may distribute unaltered copies of Mozilla Firefox and other Mozilla software from Mozilla.org without express permission from Mozilla as long as you comply with the following rules: | | — You may not charge for the software. That means: | · Distribution may not be subject to any fee. | · Distribution may not be tied to purchasing a product or service. There are many other points there, that alone enough to render it nonfree. My favourite one: | — When distributing you must distribute the most recent version of Firefox and other Mozilla software. [0] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/trademarks/distribution-policy/ > Thus I think this isn't exactly correct framing, since firefox itself isn't nonfree? As you see, it is. You could build something very similar to Firefox from sources, of course, but it would not be Mozilla Firefox. No much difference from Google Chrome in that regard. But there is one difference, that is to credit of Google and that I would not underestimate — the free counterpart of their browser has a canonical name — Chromium. While Mozillaʼs browser is anonymous and, unless are fine with adverting nonfree software, cannot be referred in any concise way; hence the whole zoo of rebrands: Icecat, Iceweasel, Fennec (F-Droid), Abrowser (Trisquel)...

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-27 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-11 19:10 Vanilla Firefox recipe? Christopher Lemmer Webber
2020-05-11 20:31 ` Guillaume Le Vaillant
2020-05-12 19:23   ` Efraim Flashner
2020-05-24 13:54     ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira via
2020-05-25 20:17       ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2020-05-26 20:27         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-27  5:16         ` Why Mozilla Firefox is nonfree? (was: Vanilla Firefox recipe?) Dmitry Alexandrov
2020-05-27 17:31           ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira via [this message]
2020-05-28  5:11             ` X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 Dmitry Alexandrov
2020-05-27 14:26         ` Vanilla Firefox recipe? Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2020-05-25 20:44       ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice

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