Additional channels pulled, but cannot install/update software

Additional channels pulled, but cannot install/update software

[Simen Endsjø]

I'm having a problem where `guix pull` pulls all channels defined in
~/.config/guix/channels.scm, but somehow only guix is available thereafter.
Any idea what might have happened? I have software installed through these
channels which now cannot be updates as they don't exist in the main guix
channel.

    $ cat ~/.config/guix/channels.scm
    (cons* (channel
            (name 'nonguix)
            (url "https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix")
            (introduction
            (make-channel-introduction
            "897c1a470da759236cc11798f4e0a5f7d4d59fbc"
            (openpgp-fingerprint
            "2A39 3FFF 68F4 EF7A 3D29  12AF 6F51 20A0 22FB B2D5"))))
        (channel
            (name 'flat)
            (url "https://github.com/flatwhatson/guix-channel.git")
            (introduction
            (make-channel-introduction
            "33f86a4b48205c0dc19d7c036c85393f0766f806"
            (openpgp-fingerprint
            "736A C00E 1254 378B A982  7AF6 9DBE 8265 81B6 4490"))))
        %default-channels)


    $ guix describe --format=channels
    (list (channel
            (name 'guix)
            (url "https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git")
            (branch "master")
            (commit
            "a43c3b1818db4860ec81bf867b1e53b418a0acec")
            (introduction
            (make-channel-introduction
                "9edb3f66fd807b096b48283debdcddccfea34bad"
                (openpgp-fingerprint
                "BBB0 2DDF 2CEA F6A8 0D1D  E643 A2A0 6DF2 A33A 54FA")))))


    $ guix pull --list-generations
    # ...
    Generation 28        Jun 24 2022 21:00:31 (current)
    nonguix 1a122e0
        repository URL: https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix
        branch: master
        commit: 1a122e06fe046caebf39395edc797515861acd3b
    flat 657da22
        repository URL: https://github.com/flatwhatson/guix-channel.git
        branch: master
        commit: 657da22f0229b978b7bf4e4d476f59f17f6a175f
    guix a43c3b1
        repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
        branch: master
        commit: a43c3b1818db4860ec81bf867b1e53b418a0acec

Re: Additional channels pulled, but cannot install/update software

[Julien Lepiller]

Hi Simen,

Can you check that your "guix" actually comes from
~/.config/guix/current/bin/guix (and *not* ~/.guix-profile or
~/.guix-home, it's very important)?

`type guix` should tell you what it is. If it doesn't agree with `which
guix` and the location found by which is correct, try `hash guix` (no
output), then from that terminal you should get the new guix that you
pulled (not other terminals, you'd need to reboot for that).

It's usually a mistake to install the guix package with something like
"guix install guix" or "guix upgrade guix", because the guix package
that guix knows is necessarily from the past, so you're instead
downgrading your guix command.

On the guix system, and I think what the binary installer does, the
guix pull profile should come first in $PATH, but maybe something went
wrong in your case, or you made some changes?

Le Sat, 25 Jun 2022 20:49:23 +0200,
Simen Endsjø <simendsjo@gmail.com> a écrit :

> I'm having a problem where `guix pull` pulls all channels defined in
> ~/.config/guix/channels.scm, but somehow only guix is available
> thereafter. Any idea what might have happened? I have software
> installed through these channels which now cannot be updates as they
> don't exist in the main guix channel.
> 
>     $ cat ~/.config/guix/channels.scm
>     (cons* (channel
>             (name 'nonguix)
>             (url "https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix")
>             (introduction
>             (make-channel-introduction
>             "897c1a470da759236cc11798f4e0a5f7d4d59fbc"
>             (openpgp-fingerprint
>             "2A39 3FFF 68F4 EF7A 3D29  12AF 6F51 20A0 22FB B2D5"))))
>         (channel
>             (name 'flat)
>             (url "https://github.com/flatwhatson/guix-channel.git")
>             (introduction
>             (make-channel-introduction
>             "33f86a4b48205c0dc19d7c036c85393f0766f806"
>             (openpgp-fingerprint
>             "736A C00E 1254 378B A982  7AF6 9DBE 8265 81B6 4490"))))
>         %default-channels)
> 
> 
>     $ guix describe --format=channels
>     (list (channel
>             (name 'guix)
>             (url "https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git")
>             (branch "master")
>             (commit
>             "a43c3b1818db4860ec81bf867b1e53b418a0acec")
>             (introduction
>             (make-channel-introduction
>                 "9edb3f66fd807b096b48283debdcddccfea34bad"
>                 (openpgp-fingerprint
>                 "BBB0 2DDF 2CEA F6A8 0D1D  E643 A2A0 6DF2 A33A
> 54FA")))))
> 
> 
>     $ guix pull --list-generations
>     # ...
>     Generation 28        Jun 24 2022 21:00:31 (current)
>     nonguix 1a122e0
>         repository URL: https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix
>         branch: master
>         commit: 1a122e06fe046caebf39395edc797515861acd3b
>     flat 657da22
>         repository URL:
> https://github.com/flatwhatson/guix-channel.git branch: master
>         commit: 657da22f0229b978b7bf4e4d476f59f17f6a175f
>     guix a43c3b1
>         repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
>         branch: master
>         commit: a43c3b1818db4860ec81bf867b1e53b418a0acec
> 

Re: Additional channels pulled, but cannot install/update software

[(]

Perhaps we could print a warning when somebody tries to add `guix` to
their profile?

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Re: Additional channels pulled, but cannot install/update software

[Simen Endsjø]

I'm not sure how to interpret the output, so I'm pasting everything here. I
notice that I have two guix profiles in my path, not sure if that's a
problem.
I've stripped what I expect is uninteresting from the PATH, but the full
output
is at the bottom.

..
/usr/local/bin:..:/gnu/store/83q0jxp3lc80n4b11zi2xhlh0wvajjcy-profile/bin:/gnu/store/83q0jxp3lc80n4b11zi2xhlh0wvajjcy-profile/sbin:/gnu/store/r5185ksn74k4frch7bcrb26xri0dx8m1-profile/bin:/home/simendsjo/.guix-profile/bin:/home/simendsjo/.guix-profile/sbin:..:/home/simendsjo/.config/guix/current/bin:..

$ which guix
/usr/local/bin/guix

$ realpath $(which guix)
/gnu/store/qy8ix3akxc4plrkw3b5hyw52y2730n7j-guix-command

$ type guix
guix is /usr/local/bin/guix
guix is /gnu/store/r5185ksn74k4frch7bcrb26xri0dx8m1-profile/bin/guix
guix is /home/simendsjo/.config/guix/current/bin/guix

$ hash guix
$ which guix
/usr/local/bin/guix

$ realpath $(which guix)
/gnu/store/qy8ix3akxc4plrkw3b5hyw52y2730n7j-guix-command

$ type guix
guix is /usr/local/bin/guix
guix is /gnu/store/r5185ksn74k4frch7bcrb26xri0dx8m1-profile/bin/guix
guix is /home/simendsjo/.config/guix/current/bin/guix

$ echo $PATH
/home/simendsjo/.nvm/versions/node/v8.17.0/bin:/home/simendsjo/.nix-profile/bin:/nix/var/nix/profiles/default/bin:/home/simendsjo/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/home/simendsjo/.nvm/versions/node/v8.17.0/bin:/gnu/store/83q0jxp3lc80n4b11zi2xhlh0wvajjcy-profile/bin:/gnu/store/83q0jxp3lc80n4b11zi2xhlh0wvajjcy-profile/sbin:/gnu/store/r5185ksn74k4frch7bcrb26xri0dx8m1-profile/bin:/home/simendsjo/.guix-profile/bin:/home/simendsjo/.guix-profile/sbin:/home/simendsjo/.nix-profile/bin:/nix/var/nix/profiles/default/bin:/home/simendsjo/.local/bin:/home/simendsjo/.config/guix/current/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/site_perl:/usr/bin/vendor_perl:/usr/bin/core_perl:/var/lib/snapd/snap/bin

On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 9:41 PM Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu> wrote:

> Hi Simen,
>
> Can you check that your "guix" actually comes from
> ~/.config/guix/current/bin/guix (and *not* ~/.guix-profile or
> ~/.guix-home, it's very important)?
>
> `type guix` should tell you what it is. If it doesn't agree with `which
> guix` and the location found by which is correct, try `hash guix` (no
> output), then from that terminal you should get the new guix that you
> pulled (not other terminals, you'd need to reboot for that).
>
> It's usually a mistake to install the guix package with something like
> "guix install guix" or "guix upgrade guix", because the guix package
> that guix knows is necessarily from the past, so you're instead
> downgrading your guix command.
>
> On the guix system, and I think what the binary installer does, the
> guix pull profile should come first in $PATH, but maybe something went
> wrong in your case, or you made some changes?
>
> Le Sat, 25 Jun 2022 20:49:23 +0200,
> Simen Endsjø <simendsjo@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> > I'm having a problem where `guix pull` pulls all channels defined in
> > ~/.config/guix/channels.scm, but somehow only guix is available
> > thereafter. Any idea what might have happened? I have software
> > installed through these channels which now cannot be updates as they
> > don't exist in the main guix channel.
> >
> >     $ cat ~/.config/guix/channels.scm
> >     (cons* (channel
> >             (name 'nonguix)
> >             (url "https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix")
> >             (introduction
> >             (make-channel-introduction
> >             "897c1a470da759236cc11798f4e0a5f7d4d59fbc"
> >             (openpgp-fingerprint
> >             "2A39 3FFF 68F4 EF7A 3D29  12AF 6F51 20A0 22FB B2D5"))))
> >         (channel
> >             (name 'flat)
> >             (url "https://github.com/flatwhatson/guix-channel.git")
> >             (introduction
> >             (make-channel-introduction
> >             "33f86a4b48205c0dc19d7c036c85393f0766f806"
> >             (openpgp-fingerprint
> >             "736A C00E 1254 378B A982  7AF6 9DBE 8265 81B6 4490"))))
> >         %default-channels)
> >
> >
> >     $ guix describe --format=channels
> >     (list (channel
> >             (name 'guix)
> >             (url "https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git")
> >             (branch "master")
> >             (commit
> >             "a43c3b1818db4860ec81bf867b1e53b418a0acec")
> >             (introduction
> >             (make-channel-introduction
> >                 "9edb3f66fd807b096b48283debdcddccfea34bad"
> >                 (openpgp-fingerprint
> >                 "BBB0 2DDF 2CEA F6A8 0D1D  E643 A2A0 6DF2 A33A
> > 54FA")))))
> >
> >
> >     $ guix pull --list-generations
> >     # ...
> >     Generation 28        Jun 24 2022 21:00:31 (current)
> >     nonguix 1a122e0
> >         repository URL: https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix
> >         branch: master
> >         commit: 1a122e06fe046caebf39395edc797515861acd3b
> >     flat 657da22
> >         repository URL:
> > https://github.com/flatwhatson/guix-channel.git branch: master
> >         commit: 657da22f0229b978b7bf4e4d476f59f17f6a175f
> >     guix a43c3b1
> >         repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
> >         branch: master
> >         commit: a43c3b1818db4860ec81bf867b1e53b418a0acec
> >
>
>

Re: Additional channels pulled, but cannot install/update software

[(]

On Sat Jun 25, 2022 at 8:49 PM BST, Simen Endsjø wrote:
> $ which guix
> /usr/local/bin/guix

...Do you have the Guix Debian package installed, by any chance?

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Re: Additional channels pulled, but cannot install/update software

[Simen Endsjø]

No, I have the manual binary installation on a Manjaro host system.

On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, 22:00 ( <paren@disroot.org> wrote:

> On Sat Jun 25, 2022 at 8:49 PM BST, Simen Endsjø wrote:
> > $ which guix
> > /usr/local/bin/guix
>
> ...Do you have the Guix Debian package installed, by any chance?
>
>     -- (
>

Re: Additional channels pulled, but cannot install/update software

[(]

On Sat Jun 25, 2022 at 9:05 PM BST, Simen Endsjø wrote:
> No, I have the manual binary installation on a Manjaro host system.

Once you pull for the first time, you should remove Guixen that you've
installed through other means (like the debian package and binary
installation). /usr/local/bin/guix is probably overriding the pulled
Guix.

Try `~/.config/guix/current/bin/guix describe --format=channels`. If it
prints the correct channels, that Guix binary is at fault.

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Re: Additional channels pulled, but cannot install/update software

[Simen Endsjø]

> Try `~/.config/guix/current/bin/guix describe --format=channels`. If it
> prints the correct channels, that Guix binary is at fault.

Thank, that solved it! I guess my PATH has changed recently so that
/usr/local/bin has a higher priority than before.

But I should remove the one in /usr/local/bin..? The documentation states
to add
it, but that's only to allow other users to run the first command? Looks
like my
problem is the PATH priority rather than the location of guix

The documentation states (ref
https://guix.gnu.org/en/manual/devel/en/html_node/Binary-Installation.html#Binary-Installation
)

    6. Make the guix command available to other users on the machine, for
instance with:

    # mkdir -p /usr/local/bin
    # cd /usr/local/bin
    # ln -s /var/guix/profiles/per-user/root/current-guix/bin/guix

On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 10:12 PM ( <paren@disroot.org> wrote:

> On Sat Jun 25, 2022 at 9:05 PM BST, Simen Endsjø wrote:
> > No, I have the manual binary installation on a Manjaro host system.
>
> Once you pull for the first time, you should remove Guixen that you've
> installed through other means (like the debian package and binary
> installation). /usr/local/bin/guix is probably overriding the pulled
> Guix.
>
> Try `~/.config/guix/current/bin/guix describe --format=channels`. If it
> prints the correct channels, that Guix binary is at fault.
>
>     -- (
>

Re: Additional channels pulled, but cannot install/update software

[(]

Noting what Vagrant said, I'd now recommend to just try to rearrange
your PATH so that the Guix directory is higher-priority.

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Re: Additional channels pulled, but cannot install/update software

[Vagrant Cascadian]

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On 2022-06-25, ( wrote:
> On Sat Jun 25, 2022 at 9:05 PM BST, Simen Endsjø wrote:
>> No, I have the manual binary installation on a Manjaro host system.
>
> Once you pull for the first time, you should remove Guixen that you've
> installed through other means (like the debian package and binary
> installation). /usr/local/bin/guix is probably overriding the pulled
> Guix.

I'm not sure this is the best advice; other installations of guix should
not interfere with the pulled "guix" command as long as your PATH is set
up correctly. If PATH is not set up correctly, other things could be
wrong too...

There are cases where it may be fine to remove, but I don't think it is
good generalized troubleshooting advice, as it may hide other problems
with the installation.

By removing it a packaged or binary installation of guix from the
system, you also prevent other users on the same system from running
guix pull for themselves... or at least make it non-obvious or
otherwise more difficult than it needs to be.


live well,
  vagrant

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Re: Additional channels pulled, but cannot install/update software

[(]

Hm, good points.

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