From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id GFXECgsSk2ApUgEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 05 May 2021 23:45:47 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id iIiEBgsSk2A9aQAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 05 May 2021 21:45:47 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F317211545 for ; Wed, 5 May 2021 23:45:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:56724 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lePKz-0007d3-3w for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 05 May 2021 17:45:45 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40840) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1leOp6-0001t1-KD for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 05 May 2021 17:12:50 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:34088) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1leOp2-00056T-Dh for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 05 May 2021 17:12:48 -0400 Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Fb8Yl0XYczF3D3; Wed, 5 May 2021 14:12:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1620249163; bh=MElQmGgnemUdAXZJ88j0xz7Xa2WAe4UOhcWYtffKbKk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=MSpIR75zRXT3MMXYUPBs12E+OBSFwXHAS1aF4P6EmNABznq7JCcFb0rTRM5DIlO5E 7B9weWD/V/BIrBPZo3+TG3FAhiBcSzzsiLq36rQyyGY+L2gU1oQ1fFGnRwHdIgiO6Y i+DxoYy7MvloCbrCB0ZjLcuQvUO/MR/XXgQd5YDU= X-Riseup-User-ID: 00F744E7DB0E6B999EA62D28695ECDFE9BE0786A49952F14AF7C4194FF3DAA84 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Fb8Yj64xBz5vNL; Wed, 5 May 2021 14:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 17:22:16 +0200 From: raingloom To: Joshua Branson Subject: Re: Anyone running Guix on the pinephone? Message-ID: <20210505172216.0c9e1135@riseup.net> In-Reply-To: <87v9815bze.fsf@dismail.de> References: <87y2cx28sc.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87v9815bze.fsf@dismail.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.252.153.129; envelope-from=raingloom@riseup.net; helo=mx1.riseup.net X-Spam_score_int: -11 X-Spam_score: -1.2 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=1.592, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: help-guix@gnu.org Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1620251146; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=CWeF0pY+/39Vz9ZNznOrdPjBPJdFAEZwAhffgCqSRFI=; b=RX5COAfSct0DIK/aQGdJBFT75yuFDPAJLYZe8bhlHHoA8ckufwNzAqRlT3WIa14EKaYK7t 1Ar5F4yk5vRW+j6cLIrkFIzYhLOV8DURCIeEtVVJhIR8yB4l6kVCKauY66rzfOwhpHAHoW NFNv+A7OiHUi/SM4pv5OlZaahBeQz+eZCxjlrUwURAY2ndvLMyQTitpB4hohLXbSAVTw5K zmP5tfKOfC1cqX2bo5lbB88M1CdzhWZT4y2kPxLRRiAJwFK91UEIF6jOdwD5KtkHriMWbH Up1plIQNhlnGkAY+WDgFEzsQo/3p2rlyKzhAa6Os+c8M9LzPCfYfWkIcfDkWvw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1620251146; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=aVMbM+/ujsqSYV63qdpA7qCJfBXQWLPq4cxjcuMyUs2HCuZUCRyw2ATKxp10jzdFsFT8Nt 4fDOTtPA41s+7oXHxbkLpgs5dDB7tGx2WQxGutay8Q+ynqqE2Ej5v1qtH8YCki7Pbwybcf nxGXfaO7UZxcefmw/auIcQGbeH+i1u9xM8re4u0Y0gBZ8e4QSYJGLRS4R3h9tM6RXCvfn7 H/CZaHU1XjFYe0XWwnSK3nGr+Ve4ue+hsqyy5Y7+P4pL2oVLOcyP5Hb6K2CfwR9Z84qiA4 Gu3LQyDq7w/pq1Z7igQC412AVA/NZR/tR0ekHEpFhvj8dIeXN6GjANlt8hgSqA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=MSpIR75z; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.37 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=MSpIR75z; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=riseup.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: F317211545 X-Spam-Score: -0.37 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 5gA9qFwp1aYc On Sun, 02 May 2021 12:36:37 -0400 Joshua Branson wrote: > Christopher Lemmer Webber writes: > > > I see the cookbook now mentions the possibility of running Guix on a > > pinephone... is anyone actually doing it? Mind posting your > > experiences and setup? > > > > (Doesn't have to be as a phone necessarily... I'm more interested in > > using it as a lightweight portable computer. But a phone would be > > nice too.) > > Is a pine phone good enough for a portable and personal computer? > Doesn't it only have 2GB? I was starting to run into RAM issues with > 4GB when I was using Gnome. Now I have 8GB and I am running sway. No > RAM issues anymore. > > Just out of curiosity, how would you deal with RAM issues/slow CPU > issues on a pinephone? Using a lightweight window manager and only > run Emacs? :) > > -- > Joshua Branson (joshuaBPMan in #guix) > Sent from Emacs and Gnus > https://gnucode.me > https://video.hardlimit.com/accounts/joshua_branson/video-channels > https://propernaming.org > "You can have whatever you want, as long as you help > enough other people get what they want." - Zig Ziglar > Firefox works fine on it, can even compile some software on the device. The trick is indeed to not run too much RAM eating crap at the same time, browsers included. I wish Netsurf was more touch friendly and less buggy. Also there is a model with more RAM. What's actually missing is better input. GTK's touch input is still very far from Android's. Also a lot of apps need to be made more touch friendly and responsive. The big issues with Guix would be: * too much wasted storage space compared to postmarketOS * much slower guix pull * no GUI frontend * lots of missing packages