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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=p2m103NC; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=riseup.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.30 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=p2m103NC; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=riseup.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5907A194FA X-Spam-Score: -1.30 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: koVkW4lCAqZ1 On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 00:26:41 +0100 L=C3=A9o Le Bouter wrote: > On Thu, 2021-03-11 at 08:23 +0900, Yasuaki Kudo wrote: > > Hello! =20 >=20 > Hello! >=20 > I think you can use JSON-RPC libraries as modern alternatives to that. > Also gRPC. The "micro-service" paradigm. >=20 > > Is this a topic that is particularly interesting to the Guix > > community because of interoperability, mixing packages, etc? =F0=9F=98= =84 =20 >=20 > I don't think so, not in particular. >=20 > > Cheers, > > Yasu =20 >=20 > L=C3=A9o There is an interesting Nix based project that has some actual good use cases for a common intermediate representation: https://publish.illinois.edu/allvm-project/ Chris Webber's talk on Spritely also had some good ideas for using OCAP in Guix to enhance security by a whole lot. https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/spritelygoblins/ And that is basically just cross-language remote procedure calls. Another interesting possibility is to run everything on WASM without an MMU. See the classic The Birth and Death of Javascript talk. https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript Of course that one is pre-Spectre/Meltdown, so take it with a grain of salt.