From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Efraim Flashner Subject: Re: Lazy users and updates Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 22:02:34 +0200 Message-ID: <20191228200234.GT23018@E5400> References: <93c355d8-8dac-2670-7b8a-9a5af8f4438b@fastmail.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fryGc0vzirnrYIcd" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50414) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ilIIq-0007MN-6h for help-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Dec 2019 15:03:13 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ilIIo-00073n-GE for help-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Dec 2019 15:03:11 -0500 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:34450) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ilIIo-0006wn-8z for help-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Dec 2019 15:03:10 -0500 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <93c355d8-8dac-2670-7b8a-9a5af8f4438b@fastmail.net> List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: Konrad Hinsen Cc: "help-guix\\@gnu.org" --fryGc0vzirnrYIcd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 03:56:07PM +0100, Konrad Hinsen wrote: > Am 27.12.19 um 14:29 schrieb Todor Kondi=C4=87: >=20 > > Given the user-centric approach of Guix, it feels like it should be up = to individual users of a shared system to deal with installations and the s= ystem updates. But, what to do when they are lazy, or too novice for fiddli= ng with the command line? > >=20 > > Do I use the admin's prerogative and set their own crontabs to pull and= "package -u" once in a while? I feel like this is overriding their free wi= ll for their own good. > >=20 > > Note that the question is ethical, as much as technical :) >=20 > Ask your users what they prefer. I'd want to handle this myself, but many= of > my colleagues would prefer an admin to take care of all updating. We are = all > different :-) >=20 Also note the difference in outputs beween 'guix package --list-profiles' and 'sudo guix package --list-profiles' --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --fryGc0vzirnrYIcd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEoov0DD5VE3JmLRT3Qarn3Mo9g1EFAl4HtNoACgkQQarn3Mo9 g1F5jBAArPvZL6JIeAkgbl+nIRJoe8dZto+JLB/xj5FeXtcmzGfwwsMAtMxgnpqy r3+oWX+NtcLo3mlq7P+wuphY3kfUKntPWVbRWDH05yjIvQziDr/TI2ab8gkYA/2J HyG8N+PTLEV3Mls2ubyZI/XyJfZEb8fA1/MRBJ9/dvJ4Hk8XFbIAQ2ZNB2IkN6pk jz7Mlk25eVmFv4FpYQoigUFJCIjql0T6S0SyM1ukR3rndLHdrHYpYBKB+h47QCGC RmTBmwczUtajo/TeLIOQyeBS1yJnYAofrx/T5a7U6fAOQDmLAsStHasAF7oq5YzQ pg8froqgB7e/lBNgZN9kfrLSNI3kNmiolZgcfQiJMhegtO4hc5b0hRquDA60HJ/p L0G0AGcAYAygpZCCASn/hbVkAXTnRC7cg0S6D+SsIFxZMp5Mj9Z73/auCszDNNq6 S5newtLj5KSqJhcq7w1MDO3V8e1IqO/Sktcma4G1YjqnB6dHP5EyF51U4VizA5hA YHplzD6o3qj57IxQ+c4Y4tY6EdPeb2+h6VUhqD9DbdJWEHojpCEDYNluVMq6ibbP 3MTa0RMrFU4lScC8w6kd+iV1zyaL4AhTX5L1x8h7JWchod6qjwSWtscDImptjn4N loKQCxPzTCI1mF3r81AvWLQVn0YVSQFPyhICUPXTZ7UMv4lE9MI= =mOy7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fryGc0vzirnrYIcd--