Hi Guix, adding the package names to package list in system configuration file, we could install these packages system wide and they will be available for all users. for packages that are located in user profile, we could check for available updates using `guix pull`. but I didn't find any similar concept for system wide installed packages. is it possible to check for system wide installed packages without reconfiguring the system?

Hi Guix, adding the package names to package list in system configuration file, we could install these packages system wide and they will be available for all users. for packages that are located in user profile, we could check for available updates using `guix pull`. but I didn't find any similar concept for system wide installed packages. is it possible to check for system wide installed packages without reconfiguring the system?

[Reza Alizadeh Majd]

Hi Guix, 

adding the package names to package list in system configuration file, we 
could 
install these packages system wide and they will be available for all 
users. 

for packages that are located in user profile, we could check for available 
updates 
using `guix pull`.  but I didn't find any similar concept for system wide 
installed 
packages. 

is it possible to check for system wide installed packages without 
reconfiguring the 
system? 


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Reza Alizadeh Majd
PantherX Team

Re: Hi Guix, adding the package names to package list in system configuration file, we could install these packages system wide and they will be available for all users. for packages that are located in user profile, we could check for available updates using `guix pull`. but I didn't find any similar concept for system wide installed packages. is it possible to check for system wide installed packages without reconfiguring the system?

[Reza Alizadeh Majd]

by the way I need to apologies for this bad title. 
my mistake on pasting the message body in to the title field !!!


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Reza Alizadeh Majd
PantherX Team

Re: Hi Guix, adding the package names to package list in system configuration file, we could install these packages system wide and they will be available for all users. for packages that are located in user profile, we could check for available updates using `guix pull`. but I didn't find any similar concept for system wide installed packages. is it possible to check for system wide installed packages without reconfiguring the system?

[Reza Alizadeh Majd]

> I'm not sure I understand your question, so let me rephrase and please tell me 
> if it's not what you wanted to ask. When you upgrade the distribution with guix 
> pull, you can get a list of what could be upgraded using, say, guix package -n 
> -u. Your question was, I think, how to do that for globally available packages.
>
> If that is your question, the answer is quite simple. The set of globally 
> installed packages is installed in a separate profile from the user profile. 
> You can use the same command as before, specifying that other profile, to get 
> the same result, with globally installed packages:
> 
> guix package -p /run/current-system/profile -n -u


Hi Julien, 

Sorry if I couldn't describe my issue well. yes thats exactly what I meant to say.
so as I understand: 

1.  we can get list of upgradable packages using:   `guix package -n -u`

2. globally available packages are located in system profile located 
in `/run/current-system/profile` and we can't check for upgrades just by
pointing the profile location. 

Thanks again for your response. 

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PantherX Team

Re: Hi Guix, ??adding the package names to package list in system configuration file, we could install these packages system wide and they will be available for all users. ??for packages that are located in user profile, we could check for available updates using `guix pull`. ??but I didn't find any similar concept for system wide installed packages. ??is it possible to check for system wide installed packages without reconfiguring the system? ?

[Efraim Flashner]

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On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:21:52AM +0330, Reza Alizadeh Majd wrote:
> > I'm not sure I understand your question, so let me rephrase and please tell me 
> > if it's not what you wanted to ask. When you upgrade the distribution with guix 
> > pull, you can get a list of what could be upgraded using, say, guix package -n 
> > -u. Your question was, I think, how to do that for globally available packages.
> >
> > If that is your question, the answer is quite simple. The set of globally 
> > installed packages is installed in a separate profile from the user profile. 
> > You can use the same command as before, specifying that other profile, to get 
> > the same result, with globally installed packages:
> > 
> > guix package -p /run/current-system/profile -n -u
> 
> 
> Hi Julien, 
> 
> Sorry if I couldn't describe my issue well. yes thats exactly what I meant to say.
> so as I understand: 
> 
> 1.  we can get list of upgradable packages using:   `guix package -n -u`
> 
> 2. globally available packages are located in system profile located 
> in `/run/current-system/profile` and we can't check for upgrades just by
> pointing the profile location. 
> 

This is pretty cool, I never tried doing that before.

(ins)efraim@E5400 ~/workspace/guix$ ./pre-inst-env guix package -p /run/current-system/profile -n -u

The following derivation would be built:
   /gnu/store/mznyxwxi62ca8rlkmfbq66vb0m7wlz7p-profile.drv
2.6 MB would be downloaded:
   /gnu/store/qyzlsaiqfggbk0j505h4m57wyyqvjnxv-grep-3.3
   /gnu/store/1gyi4i5lbpr7apm74p08dwy11fhzh4j7-sed-4.7
   /gnu/store/nmy9vns5xavx4c77kij5yb85k7axx06w-findutils-4.6.0
   /gnu/store/gh02bsk1w007gv4sl3b5rj18ziqgxm6f-diffutils-3.7
   /gnu/store/c2vas7isbs7iwjsr7wr09iwdsw9vvy25-ed-1.15
   /gnu/store/8ap398fd00xqa9ng9yzv8amkni7fzpi9-patch-2.7.6
   /gnu/store/bf18yhnd9h5qlfsw8s4c849k424ph1qh-libsigsegv-2.12
   /gnu/store/hn8kdxgd1yjqwmc32p4xjkzkhhw82g6f-gawk-5.0.1
The following profile hooks would be built:
   /gnu/store/hc51jygkiadkq8z5337jl80cpr3f8i3a-manual-database.drv
   /gnu/store/hn2ybg56m2qas1bz782b08yr6hpahb96-xdg-desktop-database.drv
   /gnu/store/j2lnvm506d9vlyksfdwnpkv1cp1n9l1c-xdg-mime-database.drv
   /gnu/store/nh6361wwkgncxzqbgfyl37n66c6hz1pz-fonts-dir.drv
   /gnu/store/q3bn0518lzmbm3mbd24r9h3flriabyxs-ca-certificate-bundle.drv
   /gnu/store/sl5yc24v3xrbrqajfrrxszw16xnz7jns-glib-schemas.drv
   /gnu/store/ybqjn15ixigjfl3g0qyinvabii8iba6g-info-dir.drv

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Re: checking for updates system-wide(was: very long subject)

[Julien Lepiller]

Le 15 octobre 2019 19:12:33 GMT+02:00, Reza Alizadeh Majd <r.majd@pantherx.org> a écrit :
>Hi Guix, 
>
>adding the package names to package list in system configuration file,
>we 
>could 
>install these packages system wide and they will be available for all 
>users. 
>
>for packages that are located in user profile, we could check for
>available 
>updates 
>using `guix pull`.  but I didn't find any similar concept for system
>wide 
>installed 
>packages. 
>
>is it possible to check for system wide installed packages without 
>reconfiguring the 
>system? 

Hi Alizadeh,

Good to see some interaction from PantherX :)

I'm not sure I understand your question, so let me rephrase and please tell me if it's not what you wanted to ask. When you upgrade the distribution with guix pull, you can get a list of what could be upgraded using, say, guix package -n -u. Your question was, I think, how to do that for globally available packages.

If that is your question, the answer is quite simple. The set of globally installed packages is installed in a separate profile from the user profile. You can use the same command as before, specifying that other profile, to get the same result, with globally installed packages:

guix package -p /run/current-system/profile -n -u

HTH