From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jean Louis Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 09:06:24 +0200 Message-ID: <20191012070623.GQ9799@protected.rcdrun.com> References: <87zhibiqka.fsf@gnu.org> <8736g3k4hd.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <20191010040011.GU20430@protected.rcdrun.com> <87pnj5i3u2.fsf@elephly.net> <20191010051730.GA27628@protected.rcdrun.com> <87d0f4y8qz.fsf@gnu.org> <3e7d86bcb247619ecabf19318e68b576ad5da291.camel@gmail.com> <550194FB-102B-4796-974A-18028C03848A@gnu.support> <7357f0fb40b745d537dd6f0ddb733ec0f44d0d60.camel@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48150) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iJBU4-0001o0-0h for help-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 03:06:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iJBU2-0003Vx-Er for help-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 03:06:35 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7357f0fb40b745d537dd6f0ddb733ec0f44d0d60.camel@gmail.com> List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: Svante Signell Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, help-guix@gnu.org, GNU Guix maintainers , rms@gnu.org * Svante Signell [2019-10-10 22:23]: > On Thu, 2019-10-10 at 19:22 +0000, Jean Louis wrote: > >=20 > >=20 > > > Your problem is that you published this statement to guix-devel. If > > > you don't mind, I'll forward your mail to gnu-system-discuss, which > > > is the appropriate mailing list. > >=20 > > I don't mind. >=20 > Sorry Jean Louis, I was addressing Ludovic, not you. I saw that you > already sent some stuff to gnu-system-discuss, have to read that now. > But, please calm down and don't require people to step down. Things has > to be discussed with sensibility in mind, not creating useless flame > wars. Dear Svante, I do not "require" anyone to step down as I cannot do that. I am calling those who have integrity to resign from GNU project, that is different as it is not a requirement. They are disgracefully abusing Dr. Richard Stallman, Guix operating system, GNU project and FSF. Funded by the FSF and third parties through the FSF with way more than US $100,000, it is disgrace that their defamatory and libelous statement is published on GNU project websites, as Guix website is GNU project's website. They expressed to want to build a different free software project, I am total supporter of that, but if one does not want to support GNU project, then I suggest they call it different, software can be forked, names can be changed, and need not be changed at all.=20 It is very very funny, that it started with RMS's statement, as described here: https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/ where Dr. Richard Stallman wrote, and I am cutting out the context: "The injustice is in the word "assaulting". The term "sexual assault" is so vague and slippery that it facilitates accusation inflation: taking claims that someone did X and leading people to think of it as Y, which is much worse than X." But Ludovic Court=C3=A8s and the sucession company of his supporters, eve= n being hackers, cannot understand it at all and continue facilitating accusation inflation by taking claims that RMS did X and leading people to think of it as Y, which is much worse than X. The Thoughtpolice[1] Squad of Ludovic Court=C3=A8s is accusing Dr. Richar= d Stallman of thoughtcrime[2] in a manner that is not even appropriate for criminal offenders. And Richard Stallmen is not a criminal. I am saddened to see that European born person such as Ludovic Court=C3=A8= s does not uphold European values such as "nobody is guilty unless proven" and that for reasons of abort() joke he has decided to defame and slander on RMS on Guix web pages. His own website http://web.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ does not speak of anything related to Dr. Richard Stallman. Like his activity does not matter alone. I have not seen even mentioning of "free software". I can just see his own ego and PhD thesis on software and technicalities, and nothing ideological that I have expected to see. This speaks of his lack of awareness of importance of free software and full awareness of technicalities. His ability lies in hacking, not in leading a GNU project. Without seeing what RMS continually does for free software, how can he speak to take RMS down from GNU leadership... it is even not consistent and totally contradictory with the fact that Guix is supported by RMS, and FSF, and that huge donation have been sent to Guix by the FSF and third parties. The Ludovic Court=C3=A8s and the succession company have been asked to provide facts that will justify their statemetn, and they have none. They have not allowed comments on their pages, and are just practising censorship. It is my opinion that their statements are truly a hostile takeover of GNU organization and not for reasons of free software and further development of the GNU project, but for reasons of Ludovic Court=C3=A8s a= nd the succession company's desire for authority, powers and funds from foundations. Jean Footnotes: [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Police [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime