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MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[i=1]; RCVD_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[7]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[] X-TUID: NVp9+ZUjmps/ ---- On Sun, 03 May 2020 03:32:33 +0000 Leo Famulari wrote ---- > Welcome and thanks for trying Guix! > > On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 10:09:10PM +0200, christophe.pisteur@posteo.net wrote: > > The only small problem is the system startup, which takes a long time (3 > > minutes from grub to GDM user login). It is probably due to a problem with > > the system clock (I get somes warnings: ntpd clock unsynchronized). I don't > > know where the boot log is on guix system and I don't know if it has to do > > with GNU bug report logs - #22274. > > I have Guix on an X200 (basically the same as yours) and I can confirm, > it's slow. > > I don't think it's related to ntpd. I see the same warnings but the > system displays the login prompt before they are resolved. > > Generally, the issue is that the Shepherd is not optimized to the degree > that systemd is, and that these old Thinkpads (sold in 2008) are really > slow by contemporary standards. > > One of the early selling points of systemd was that it reduced boot > times from being measured in minutes, which used to be typical, to > seconds. Now systemd is the standard, and minutes-long booting seems > incredibly and unreasonably slow. > > Guix System: Very long, scary boot time: http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/39089