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From: Tanguy LE CARROUR Cc: Julien Lepiller , help-guix@gnu.org To: Maxim Cournoyer In-Reply-To: <87sfduxc0i.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2023 17:02:55 +0100 Message-ID: <167976017516.1414.1528646182379238948@localhost> User-Agent: alot/0.10 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:4b98:dc4:8::229; envelope-from=tanguy@bioneland.org; helo=relay9-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1679760204; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=WGs3adZwxPGl7n7s9utZ1XNmDudhKuZGMEdMjQ+zlF/LLrVap2vkATB0rAmUykGM2ub1yr HhRCzo5olCIDfykGinEAN0cAbhhae077OEopGB4Gdeshea0Pt8tqe9zyx3zFj6cx3dNMMc gaJeKOoSIweyaHRlDqgX9R7RmoqYUL98ZGM/z0c37xmd3beEj5IlQ3nTttKsL8H/6Vjnp2 PCb1okrEgs+/X0Jm8rVjMdypVY5ZXa91kJ6HiwCVodDaha5D8Q5c8IgMA9GkeAG1ah68jN 2COYTvZlOpKRrq+3Gjmkun3bBiZ3AJArLvhBXX4sUc9AXuxv/VxBN6uIxdVOcw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=bioneland.org header.s=gm1 header.b=Bi79TIrW; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=bioneland.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1679760204; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=gYFXLZmqo4ehjkIth+vB0GYuwUoa3ZvxVEApFGfHibY=; b=Q4OdjZWo2vqgcYc0CpVGbKlm1wQiBoKplS4JZhjp5eB6LSyBqcda33ixcnD1SNtNrrMQoY c2o6HIHBqzzxrCSqmA/WKlLGeYXY8KbT85k7w6aWX3ReawJLsIbc1g1aInznrcqWxUmBTL 9wHcUTWzNI+R1OQkVRlaBQqVZM0QUkdXzgDuplfjSlGUCY6Cpx7qkcjSDNYKPOTUJR3Qem Dv8CKvkodif4ibNEQqe7yY5dAbuWYyMJ2iJa94cicEIa41+sV5PlCzWti4GfnMpxzQn4NI 8z+V7NrpyBonWwSTcodqW58MOw9jSkgzypKkr5vunakDbj8Lwp4NvoGNhxhnYw== Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=bioneland.org header.s=gm1 header.b=Bi79TIrW; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=bioneland.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.80 X-Spam-Score: -4.80 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 17E8EDD99 X-TUID: TKt5AF2ou1T1 Hi Maxim, Quoting Maxim Cournoyer (2023-03-24 19:03:25) > Tanguy LE CARROUR writes: > > Quoting Julien Lepiller (2023-03-22 18:24:37) > >> Most likely, you're just seeing a weird behavior caused by grafts. [= =E2=80=A6] > >> When you reconfigure, guix needs to download the ungrafted package > >> before it figures out it already has the graft. > > > > Oh=E2=80=A6 Oh=E2=80=A6 grafts! =F0=9F=A4=AF > > > > > >> Since they have the same name and version, I think you're just > >> cwnfusing the two :) > > > > "Confused" is the appropriate word, indeed! =F0=9F=98=85 > > > > The thing is, I've been (for the last few months! =F0=9F=98=B1) in the = process of > > writing home services definitions to replace **all** my configuration f= iles, > > so I run **a lot** of `guix home reconfigure`. The command usually take= s 30 > > seconds to run, but right after I `guix gc` it takes 10 minutes. So I > > guess I should stop collecting garbage for the time being, which is most > > inconvenient for it saves more than 4Go of disk space. >=20 > I think we should do something on Guix's side too; it'd be more > intuitive and save resource/time if the things needed by grafts were > always available, i.e. prevented from being garbage collected. I remember that something was said about grafts during the Guix Days. But, for what I remember, it was more making sure that something that has b= een grafted is ungrafted. And, as I'm not exactly sure I understand everything about grafts, I going to read (again!?) . Regards, --=20 Tanguy