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[Was: Grub menu not displayed] From: Tanguy LE CARROUR To: David Lecompte , Leo Famulari , Maxim Cournoyer In-Reply-To: <1cee6dd9470bfc045dbf63fb6d8706b7a45515dd.camel@metani.info> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 14:40:43 +0100 Message-ID: <164311804315.29948.7284366137660618075@localhost> User-Agent: alot/0.10 Received-SPF: none client-ip=217.70.183.201; envelope-from=tanguy@bioneland.org; helo=relay8-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: help-guix@gnu.org Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1643122403; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=Ta2ve9f6VVU3BDHROjpU0vurUz+H8ejPxCiJtPcOHi0=; b=DJnYOSXx8D4cpVaARq6nMDIry3zz6Uuhwdo5w9oPuznn+sL5d9SiUUloOPmX47Mb5TXS+x rTelBUe6NJcqiLmgxYH7roxHoAjZI+qMkhPFEWr9cw0cH37AjPcbMMymYUC4onJ8/jxvim uaEJ5yvqr5RDHJjFJk8Wm4qyKTVpvANCdFGeP9IcXEXymbsJtyIe6bwk3urdvQzBjfnZM9 GQBU7fFVk6iffyOjuvJ+HaYFphpJah/trHlTnDFHeNkcG6B3MAGDE9XRxWRVYJ3ahaPb4E 4OKYuUnaZgiwJW63VzO7/Ca4S4HIsNaNFWwkLmG6SvgYJjrU2K+CUEl8oJxWtQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1643122403; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=JJDWKjLa5+nWWHyramfhV8Vvs7AUgmYft8Uxk49p8iSJG9q4mC7HvTYe0hjrIE7cbUBBex N9qLKgTSsHL7pJ7QqL7toL2jjAprlT23uQuL/K61PCXDTMPcMpYVM+4YJIzEkYOOnaJ9hd qOj9hl4SALqzsogD136s5xIi1iEDmj9V2c1CGSWKMCpY+n0H31fvBkaIhi6EQ+NC5tBwWx XoAIUN/T1TX7IZm31US1kCcf5exeFCdAWlguGkJkFt2T+bE0x36lK4VP4QhqM7OTHJJwvb rGWET9T7Ytsb1R3Sw8P/+5EGhx7Pt92llyY1H5j5vF8as54GWOKFmKpPbf5qsg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.23 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9FB8142362 X-Spam-Score: -1.23 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: +GyfeZHG8oSJ Hi David, Quoting David Lecompte (2022-01-25 12:38:02) > Le lundi 24 janvier 2022 =C3=A0 08:46 +0100, Tanguy LE CARROUR a =C3=A9cr= it=C2=A0: > > Everything works as expected on my Thinkpad T200. The problem is with > > my > > Viking D8=E2=80=A6 that uses the nVIDIA driver! Do you think it could be > > related? >=20 > I am using a Vikings D8 with Trisquel 9 + Guix and Debian 11 + Guix, I > can see Grub menu but only in text > mode.=C2=A0https://libreboot.org/docs/hardware/kcma-d8.html says only tex= t- > mode is known to work (my D8 has coreboot but I suppose the problem is > the same). I have a GeForce GT-710 but I suspect that it isn't used at > the time Grub is loaded. Vikings told me a non-free blob would be > needed to have graphical GRUB display. >=20 > In Trisquel, I had set GRUB_TERMINAL=3Dconsole in /etc/default/grub. >=20 > In Debian, I did not set anything manually, I don't know how text mode > is selected. Good to know. Thanks for sharing! Good thing is that I'm perfectly OK living with GRUB's text mode! :-) > By the way, with nouveau I have regular system freezes with Trisquel 9 > (logs show issues with stack in nouveau, can happen more than once a > day), while with Debian 11 and Mate, I only rarely (once a month or > less) have the Mate session disconnected (apparently, X server was > restarted). >=20 > Perhaps this wasn't the main question, but in case it could help. Indeed, it's not related to this question, but it's totally related to my next one! :-) [=E2=80=A6updating the thread's subject=E2=80=A6] I've had the very same "system freezes" problem since the very beginning (I'm using Bspwm window manager on a Guix System, btw). It mostly happens when I'm using graphical applications: Libreoffice, Grisb= i and Icecat on some JS-heavy pages (visiting Gitlab issues, most of the time). When it freezes, I cannot switch to a different workspace and the applications on the current workspace stop responding=E2=80=A6 but the poin= ter moves normally and music keeps on playing for a few minutes. I don't know if it's possible to disable Nouveau entirely or to use the proprietary/evil driver, just to make sure Nouveau actually causes the issu= e. Even if it only happens 2 or 3=C2=A0times a month, any fix would be welcome! Regards, --=20 Tanguy