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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spampanel-Class: ham Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a10:de80:1:4091:b9e9:221f:0:1; envelope-from=ekaitz@elenq.tech; helo=dane.soverin.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.78 X-Spam-Score: -2.78 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7431B1A4C5 X-TUID: xgY+L1AYWpkT Hi, On 2025-01-08 9:50 PM, gfp wrote: > Hi Felix, > > I bought a laptop of the company Tuxedo > where I can disable IME. Don't they disable that by default? > The options were really tricky. Difficult. Yes they are, but you can do it! > I will check again, if they enabled it again. Hopefully not. > > I didn´t install any proprietary in the beginning. > But I don´t know, and that´s why my question, > if on my laptop is something installed beforehand. > I don´t have enough knowledge about boot process etc. > > I assume Shepherd is the Guix init system like systemd in other linux > distros. Is that right? Yes. > What is Grub? Is EFI a part of Grub? Grub is a bootloader. In a very simplified way, which I hope is right: 1. EFI runs Grub. 2. Grub chooses the kernel to run and runs it. 3. The kernel runs the init system, which prepares everything for you. > I guess Guix community replaced "EFI" with "grubx64.efi" > that´s why we can find this file in the boot/EFI folder. No, Grub is an EFI application (some software that can be launched from EFI). EFI is going to search in the /boot/efi folder for the applications that it can run. That's why Grub has to be there. > > Booring often requires proprietary firmware blobs > > What do you mean by "Booring" I don´t understand this word? > Thanks I think he means Booting, with T. > Gottfried > Hope this helps, Ekaitz