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Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Simon Tournier , Lars-Dominik Braun , guix-science@gnu.org, Simon Tournier References: <86y1rkitkk.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IXENTIu9/2ORTU70" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86y1rkitkk.fsf@gmail.com> X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x41AAE7DCCA3D8351 X-PGP-Key: https://flashner.co.il/~efraim/efraim_flashner.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::42e; envelope-from=efraim.flashner@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x42e.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.196, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-science@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-science-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-science-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1670399105; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=ThE76i8JcCiKz4upKLLOU/+H1hGTcd8BGoe5Xb7NDGc=; b=MwVllXWn9NDdZNegU4hvsBc3YE05wFRlHqkxtikXtEf4ZD0boNTatOxqXxWKv4AbLbOn+p 1wykzbd4V10VcgLEfmzydt7FpdS8MSyipPfKmkbSBqi+BHPe+bNijja8C1gSvdNYRLP2yL Yn5Z47nv9H37Un9uJf9vmHX2gJGGaIm4iKQOvuTqDbRpCg72mdofNSmaaJTlNFt7hAk52S glViILChNlz54hUPJUL/9Tygy3bMLthkl3mtKDpiCiv26rC9lKqdS4Zkvh7mzp3xFChwuG AhtvYDx/LPvYQIuXIBinP6+5mI4mnOeqfzwjxz+bZ46j6BpQpjuaG00wE1ItlQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1670399105; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=TvTWFr3347c/GjbjNjBB0B69TP34LH4i9JWy3dukRcg4Ik3WA9R/dNZdm7CX/AQPZItSV8 fbiIDYHETP8YCRZ+fsgbNC3TWRNBtod2uDaaxk8RiD/mbFT0500G+BBEhmMVAoLJlbXTJL 2qYGgclMNW+WUKTLt4IDYm8llIgC3HkEpNClNNxhkHkazHDEl8YSay7B535ICmxXlqHI6x z3eREchTDmgWAjSGfp5ZjBe5pDTBh/sbVjVnLpdS4J/fBqdJaeNr2/uM5Pv2Y+8FQ1Axkp UC9NxRr/V4QLd/y8ouLgGJt95GybYvIGmKLnVHDD5TkseFhXR0YGpZgz8OZ1CQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=g76tYcKX; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-science-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-science-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.33 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=g76tYcKX; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-science-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-science-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9DE8523802 X-Spam-Score: 0.33 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: UWrKHZ0r4mGK --IXENTIu9/2ORTU70 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="WnNy2vQFi+FuDfUg" Content-Disposition: inline --WnNy2vQFi+FuDfUg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 06, 2022 at 01:51:23PM +0100, Simon Tournier wrote: > Hi Lars, >=20 > On Tue, 06 Dec 2022 at 08:53, Lars-Dominik Braun wrote: >=20 > > attached my draft post for hpc.guix.info regarding guix-cran. >=20 > Applied, thanks. It is under drafts/ [1]. Last round proofread before > publishing. On Friday? >=20 > 1: I had a couple of small changes I would make. --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --WnNy2vQFi+FuDfUg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="guix-hpc-cran-blogpost.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable diff --git a/drafts/reproducible-cran.md b/drafts/reproducible-cran.md index e365f70..61f7444 100644 --- a/drafts/reproducible-cran.md +++ b/drafts/reproducible-cran.md @@ -55,9 +55,9 @@ to R=E2=80=99s search path. =20 While this approach works well for individual users, Guix installations with a larger user-base, for instance institution-wide, would benefit -from default availability of the entire CRAN package collection with -pre-built substitutes to speed up installation times. Additionally -reproducing environments would include less steps if the package +from the default availability of the entire CRAN package collection with +pre-built substitutes to speed up installation times. Additionally, +reproducing environments would include fewer steps if the package recipes were available to anyone by default. =20 ## Introducing guix-cran @@ -72,7 +72,7 @@ pre-built on a central server. =20 As of commit `cc7394098f306550c476316710ccad20a510fa4b` there are 17431 packages available in guix-cran. 95% of them are buildable and only 0.5% -of these builds are not reproducible via `guix build --check`. It is +of these builds are not reproducible via `guix build --check`. It is also possible to use old package versions via `guix time-machine`, similar to what [MRAN](https://mran.microsoft.com/documents/rro/reproducibility) offers. However, that time-frame only spans about two months right now. @@ -89,9 +89,9 @@ CRAN importer. =20 Currently building the channel derivation is very slow, most likely due to Guile performance issues. For this reason packages -are split into files by first letter. This way they can -still be referenced deterministically by the first letter of -their name. Since the number of loadable modules is [limited to +are split into files by the first letter of their name. This way they can +still be referenced deterministically by their first letter. +Since the number of loadable modules is [limited to 8192](https://www.mail-archive.com/guile-devel@gnu.org/msg16244.html), creating one module file per package is not possible and putting them all into the same file is even slower. --WnNy2vQFi+FuDfUg-- --IXENTIu9/2ORTU70 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEoov0DD5VE3JmLRT3Qarn3Mo9g1EFAmOQRFgACgkQQarn3Mo9 g1H9sA//VG6WDqy4v0tVgBDnHtyY6dzq+BEs+Q3pXuUnXPLPa+ZtzdwDtGpO8b5R /CDbwTdE3TRjpE+6FF5XiozB11TT+MX64elGxuMi9MKOHyFlBpX2prb2Xv9G7miT 4QGpRd9a5wQJbrRecG7oKHM6f5esQnoPqjXie2gGCu5iye75ifNPNF64lmTNq2fc 7n3QoDtESK9wYyta0uUugmJzVmiYT5qD1wOqVAu8Pm/8rOumHTUa57EF14MVf/G5 zZedz0eqOwjEgWnvFuj8+sM3+8+7k2VZ1KhWiBa9/i8qGnRDSM/i9dk64nZA/IR5 UzDfI1dZ2hQXTHex/bXhJ7lHpnLjbE/DfpO7X2/6Wq8G5nSUtZUyigmEk1SCHZqc VqOWP6W9aoAhsubJDDU2iEAyYyY5BPcYt/GtoCJpXDYdq89rlXL1e7K9++pTU5Ze kVpkyirhbUG/dMHoGxdpBIr2UpHqcyq09GyOgIIsUcwHJHAEY+MkHzhXP23qTfVB JBCx+Juwi6H94/TQnz2eo7u4IZVhpq67n0w5/fK6qJL5QLWgmk7bViI1Ur96MtY0 zkmjgTDv3QizY6orOMRR9u5axmkh6kFClm1U+lqPoBwO+r09HV5wCiqh8JJW1i9I CFFP0MxrUIzg6Iv+0WOcyR6ZukFpmlENjHT2IBiihDo6hXn1idE= =TsfM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IXENTIu9/2ORTU70--