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spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-science-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-science-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.30 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=eauchat.org header.s=mail header.b=iuDPvsX1; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=eauchat.org (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-science-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-science-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 87CE6203E7 X-Spam-Score: -1.30 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 3YkW4FVnZg1E Hi Simon, Thanks for your answer! On 15 Mar 2021 at 22:47, zimoun wrote: > Well, if you are French speaker, a two mornings* workshop is in=20 > the > pipe. The announce should come really soon. The idea is=20 > sharing > feedback with other users from sysadmin to researcher. > > *morning in metropolitan France meaning. :-) I am French, I'll be very happy to attend if I can! I live in=20 Japan now though, so I guess I'll miss parts. Are you planning to=20 record the workshop? Another thought: given Ludo's position, I am imagining that Inria=20 Bordeaux runs Guix on some of their infrastructure, is that the=20 case? If so, can you share any details about how that came to=20 happen? >> As a first step I would like to discuss with the sysadmins if=20 >> they >> would consider activating user namespaces so users can play >> around. Aside from [1] and [2], are there any updated=20 >> discussions >> about this topic, e.g. why to do it or why not? > > You mean to run "bundles" on computers that do not have Guix=20 > installed, right? > Well, the answer "qui peut le plus peut le moins" is maybe not > satisfactoring... if you have the choice to do it, you should.=20 > Even, > if you have the choice to install Guix (the package manager),=20 > you also > should. Yes I meant that. They run CentOS 8, so convincing them to run a=20 build daemon will not be as simple as `apt install guix`, but=20 we'll see how the conversation goes :) I'll write back here in a few days once I've thought about how to=20 present things to the sysadmins. In the meantime, any feedback on=20 past experience is very welcome! S=C3=A9bastien