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dkim=pass header.d=inria.fr header.s=dc header.b=hK84nsSm; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-science-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-science-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=inria.fr X-TUID: hyWXpAnBHaX0 Hello comrades, =E2=80=9CSeeing is believing=E2=80=9D so I think we should build upon Thiba= ult=E2=80=99s experiments and on what Simon and Ricardo pointed out to write an article showing in concrete ways in which Conda would fail to reproduce a software environment. That would make a good blog post on hpc.guix.info; some conferences such as (too late for this edition) may also be good opportunities for such a study. Just sayin=E2=80=99! :-) Ludo=E2=80=99.