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I messed up guix-past In-Reply-To: <87y1ur34np.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86v8pwo39x.fsf@gmail.com> <87y1ur34np.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 12:40:51 +0200 Message-ID: <86v8pv5x70.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::32d; envelope-from=zimon.toutoune@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x32d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-science@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-science-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-Science" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1662806499; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=x8HYLPeaLTHZaA0Hkf4fu/5SdWKSn9v6TzBUfg3gAKI=; b=WNIh+efZ9Pl3pBaCIY0yAhWVp20sj8oeaK8D8wMbJK1BRtR/TKoXR6rDPuSDC6FMeOfUg7 C+XvXw196FrF+xhY5H9BMMyU8sQ1sj8TtsAjB9De9A3qiydGJ4O+enoc27Q10qa7CdVlJL Wjvq7Ydqmk/z/kClvKHFcYbBE05Ek8LhLKVRb1B4TGAlC+PQYZ3IfKJ2H0Vgxay331H1NU 04Ixy1XMunSEIo2iKQEk4Gu3n743e9qXcG4frh0/GXdwHGh9oPIWEt2kTwbaPGrcCfVe88 QKNNCmWgVuzaMazLC/M1FX2mQmHeOiDR5yyVOje9T3yfiamv+xO0Dq0CUpuKRA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1662806499; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=nhJkpScMV1MwK5T+ZphJnlktlBhFi8PcbhBuIy6h7UlR801j+uESBE6PPkvdm395vfxCfp KXoYHA/u//KlJjb2Iblv58HQq+vW3NYTlwuSGsnFxYqCsftqIMLjvyWB/d5emutsOuOpHz ixz9oBMdCNMb0oDP2pA3N7FKrRpqGWeTMVPJEMjuBmuEjsjrgpBDHARX03rtNSbxSQj8ld m/bJDYE+GuF3G6YoE0u4KtVLy5l23akBEOSdS6dXpMsn21e/w17I40u0TO7oHjtkyCQLN1 6v9vm3bCCGOwFL48pNTMQLs/9URhYVGTiaHNLGto8x+UzBj1jfp+pXlEks1RDQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=mznaOVx9; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-science-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-science-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.29 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=mznaOVx9; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-science-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-science-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: BFE9E1CFCB X-Spam-Score: -2.29 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: VwCcPNk6djWJ Hi, On Sat, 10 Sep 2022 at 12:27, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Yes, in this particular case, it is the only way forward. As shown in another message, there is just a warning about stalling. However, no error and the packages are available. Therefore, I do not understand the authentication mechanism. Because I was expecting to have an error and that pull forces me to run --disable-authentication. > That said, I think authenticating source code is important. Starting > from a few months ago, Git supports other means to do that, but they=E2= =80=99re > not widespread and not all that attractive. With all its warts, OpenPGP > is what we have to do that. All code are not equal. Most of the packages in guix-past are very old packages and I bet they contain many security holes. So I am happy to know that I fetch authenticated security holes. ;-) > It would be sad to fork the repo for this reason; maybe we can discuss > ways to make it practical for you, such as creating a single-purpose key > that you wouldn=E2=80=99t have to worry much about? >From my point of view, authentication of guix-past adds more burden than it solves concrete issues of real problem. I suggest to just drop the authentication for this channel. Cheers, simon