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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=cqbokQt2; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.94 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=cqbokQt2; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: BED8D191ED X-Spam-Score: -2.94 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 1coetfsJJNfl Hi Leo,=0A=0A> I know you mean this somewhat jokingly, but is there anyth= ing (apart=0A> maybe from the name of the binary), that would keep you fr= om reusing=0A> murmur-service-type?=0A=0ASee here: =0A=0Ahttps://github.c= om/mumble-voip/grumble/issues/21=0Ahttps://github.com/mumble-voip/grumble= /pull/26=0A=0AThere are more sources related to the grumble config that's= currently implemented that I can't locate at the moment. =0A=0AI remembe= r reading that they didn't necessarily want to maintain feature parity wi= th the grumble config format.=0A=0A> 1. Is this package in its current st= ate usable?=0A=0AI would say yes. We packaged grumble while talking over = grumble. It feels pretty solid. =0A=0AGrumble also has an active fork as = a library and being used by wahay: https://wahay.org/=0A=0AIt is currentl= y 16 commits ahead of upstream:=0A=0Ahttps://github.com/digitalautonomy/g= rumble=0A=0A> 2. Is it still maintained upstream? It is a little stretch= to say=0A> Grumble is undergoing active development after a year of no a= ctivity. =0A=0AIt sounds like the project maintainers of the upstream gru= mble project are very slow to review pull requests. It sounds like they a= re too busy with other projects/work.=0A=0ASee the complaint here by one = of the contributors that chimed in when I opened an issue:=0A=0Ahttps://g= ithub.com/mumble-voip/grumble/issues/76=0A=0A> 3. https://github.com/mumb= le-voip/grumble#project-statuslists quite a=0A> few features that are lac= king, but does it maybe contain features, that=0A> would make it worth pa= ckaging?=0A=0ASee https://github.com/mumble-voip/grumble/issues/76=0A=0A"= ... Grumble has the distinguishing feature of native support for Websocke= ts (because I was a lot worse at C++ back then and so I contributed a pat= ch here instead), and Murmur will probably not have that for the foreseea= ble future. You could of course just configure a proxy in front of Murmur= if you need this. A lot of the plans for work we were making a few years= ago pointed towards Grumble being more focused on ease-of-use and these = small workloads I talked about above. It makes sense: the Murmur static b= inary has issues and so a Grumble static (just how Go works) binary that = you can download and run, trivially configure and easily negotiate certs = over LE (unfortunately never happened due to LE issues, but it would be v= iable now), accessible over the Web could fulfil a sort of "batteries-inc= luded" user-friendly niche."=0A=0A> If the answer is "no" to any of the a= bove, I'm not too sure whether it=0A> would be wise to have this in Guix = upstream. If LibreMiami wanted to=0A> host grumble instances on Guix reg= ardless, perhaps a channel might be a=0A> better fit?=0A=0AWe can put thi= s in a LibreMiami channel with a service for it if you insist it not be i= ncluded in upstream guix. =0A=0AIf upstream grumble picks up development = then I can send a patch again for review.=0A=0AThat said, can you take th= e patch for go-github-com-gorilla-websocket?=0A=0AWe will need go-github-= com-gorilla-websocket for many other packages that we're working on. One = of them being the hugo static site generator that we're working on with R= yan Prior.=0A=0ARelatedly, we're planning on packaging wahay (https://wah= ay.org/). =0A=0Awahay depends on the fork of grumble that I linked above.= =0A=0AShould we package only the fork of grumble in that case and not up= stream grumble?=0A=0Aall the best,=0A=0Ajgart