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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=philipmcgrath.com header.s=fm1 header.b=IOVKITl3; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b="y Zi2th6"; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 1.63 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=philipmcgrath.com header.s=fm1 header.b=IOVKITl3; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b="y Zi2th6"; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: EC72B1D186 X-Spam-Score: 1.63 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: cblwkawRVisZ Hi, On Thu, Aug 11, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: > Am Donnerstag, dem 11.08.2022 um 10:00 -0400 schrieb Philip McGrath: >> I'm planning to respond in the other thread about the possibility of >> a truly generic macro name, but I hope it doesn't need to become an >> issue blocking this patch series. For now, I'm not entirely sure what >> "Racket-agnostic" means; the bottom line for my is I think it would >> be absurdly awful to have to write, e.g. if cross-compiling using >> `distro-build` with the top-level Makefile: >>=20 >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ./configure CPPFLAGS=3D"GUIX_RKTIO_BIN_SH=3D/input= /bin/sh >> GUIX_ZUO_BIN_SH=3D/input/bin/sh GUIX_CHEZ_BIN_SH=3D/input/bin/sh" >> CPPFLAGS_FOR_BUILD=3D"GUIX_RKTIO_BIN_SH=3D/native-input/bin/sh >> GUIX_ZUO_BIN_SH=3D/native-input/bin/sh GUIX_CHEZ_BIN_SH=3D/native- >> input/bin/sh" > GUIX_CHEZ_BIN_SH would semantically cover all four however, no?=20 > (Ignoring more generic options for now.) > I don't think so. Zuo and Racket BC have at least as little to do with C= hez as upstream Chez has to do with rktio. >> > > +=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (home-page "https://github.com/ra= cket/zuo") >> > > +=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;; ^ This is downstream of >> > > https://github.com/racket/racket, >> > > +=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ;; but it's designed to be a frie= ndly landing place >> > > +=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (synopsis "Tiny Racket for build = scripts") >> > > +=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (description "You should use Rack= et to write scripts. >> > Sorry, but I prefer Guile. >>=20 >> (At the risk of responding seriously to what was probably meant to be >> a joke:) I've never tried to use Guile on Windows, but, given that >> the manual chapter is called "POSIX System Calls and Networking", >> it's not clear to me that Guile provides as portable and powerful >> "primitives for dealing with files and running processes" as Zuo, let >> alone Racket. > At the risk of responding seriously to what was probably meant to be a > joke, I don't use Winblows =F0=9F=98=89=EF=B8=8F > If you want to be horrified, read . I'm very glad Racket manages all that complexity f= or me. (And in fairness, even on Unix, there are valid paths which can n= ot be represented as Scheme strings.) -Philip