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[85.127.52.93]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c7-20020aa7df07000000b00514b854c399sm2619356edy.84.2023.06.10.01.51.44 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 10 Jun 2023 01:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Liliana Marie Prikler Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 10:51:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87fs6z919h.fsf@trop.in> References: <87ilbv95m8.fsf@trop.in> <4e7bbf48998a86696247bec6de9e830cb8ba31c1.camel@gmail.com> <87fs6z919h.fsf@trop.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.46.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: UNKNOWN X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Spam-Score: -0.96 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 729FE2A635 X-Migadu-Scanner: in3.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.96 X-TUID: lP/A9e/LvjHY Am Samstag, dem 10.06.2023 um 12:20 +0400 schrieb Andrew Tropin: > On 2023-06-10 09:46, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: >=20 > > Am Samstag, dem 10.06.2023 um 10:46 +0400 schrieb Andrew Tropin: > > > On 2023-06-09 18:22, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: > > >=20 > > > > Hi Guix, > > > >=20 > > > > it's already been four weeks since the newest Emacs pre- > > > > release.=C2=A0 > > > > Time > > > > sure flies.=C2=A0 With that in mind, I'd like to start work in the > > > > Emacs > > > > team > > > > focused on > > > > 1. streamlining our Emacs packages > > > > 2. improving emacs-build-system and adapting it to the new > > > > features > > > > of > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 Emacs 29 (including the almost forgotten [1]) > > > > 3. improving our Emacs package management (i.e. making it > > > > easier to > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 declare variants of emacs-* packages built with differ= ent > > > > Emacsen) > > > >=20 > > > > This series gets us started on (1), so we can do (2) and (3) > > > > hopefully > > > > soon. > > > >=20 > > > > Cheers > > > >=20 > > > > [1] https://issues.guix.gnu.org/57122 > > > >=20 > > > > Liliana Marie Prikler (2): > > > > =C2=A0 gnu: Make emacs-next-tree-sitter the new emacs. > > > > =C2=A0 gnu: Construct Emacs packages from bottom up. > > > >=20 > > > > =C2=A0gnu/local.mk=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= |=C2=A0=C2=A0 1 - > > > > =C2=A0gnu/packages/emacs.scm=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 | 467 +++++++--- > > > > ---- > > > > ---- > > > > =C2=A0.../patches/emacs-source-date-epoch.patch=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 20 - > > > > =C2=A03 files changed, 190 insertions(+), 298 deletions(-) > > > > =C2=A0delete mode 100644 gnu/packages/patches/emacs-source-date- > > > > epoch.patch > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > base-commit: 44bbfc24e4bcc48d0e3343cd3d83452721af8c36 > > >=20 > > > Hi Liliana,=20 > > >=20 > > > the patch series looks good, thank you for working on this.=C2=A0 Do > > > we want to add (define-deprecated/alias) to make the transition > > > to new emacs package names smoother? > > Since it'll be a "world"-rebuilding change, I think a news entry > > ought to be preferred. >=20 > I don't think one excludes another.=C2=A0 We can provide both news entry > and deprecation alias.=C2=A0 This way we let people update guix channel > version without any changes to their configurations, let them know > emacs-next-blabla will dissapear soon and give them time to react and > update their configurations accordingly without hurry. >=20 > I'm ok proceeding without this extra step, but the deprecation > workflow seems nicer to me. You're right in that one does not exclude the other, but there are practical limitations. When emacs itself has version 29, emacs-next ought to be 30, imho. Cheers