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From: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>
To: "Konrad Hinsen" <konrad.hinsen@fastmail.net>,
	"Ludovic Courtès" <ludovic.courtes@inria.fr>,
	50960@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment'
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2021 09:45:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b263ffa2e4a1a13ba83aec6bafe2e03410e42009.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1pmsffrky.fsf@fastmail.net>

Am Freitag, den 08.10.2021, 17:45 +0200 schrieb Konrad Hinsen:
> Hi Ludo and Liliana,
> 
> > To me it’s the same as ‘guix environment’, but with a slightly
> > different command-line interface; ‘guix environment’ was already
> > serves these two use cases.
> 
> Indeed, but the new proposal goes much further with supporting
> interactive convenience, in particular via the controversial reading
> of guix.scm and/or manifest.scm. That's a convenience I'd like to
> have interactively, but not something I expect from an infrastructure
> tool that ends up being used in lengthy shell script. For the latter,
> the "Zen of Python wisdom" of "explicit is better than implicit"
> matters a lot. On the command line, it makes life harder, in
> particular for bad typists such as myself.
> 
> > Perhaps to avoid this trouble, guix shell could read a file that
> > simply specifies which arguments to add one line at a time e.g.
> > 
> >   ;; .guix-shell-rc
> >   --manifest=manifest.scm
> 
> That's a nice idea, but again something I wouldn't want an
> infrastructure tool to do. When I use "guix environment" or "guix
> shell" in a script or workflow, I want whatever it does to be as
> independent as possible from my machine or account, except when I
> explicitly say the contrary.
People do use “emacs -Q” so there's no hard “one way or the other”
requirement.  All we would need to do is offer a similar flag to
prevent reading the rc file, no?

Cheers,
Liliana





  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-09  7:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-02 10:21 [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 01/10] packages: Add 'package-development-inputs' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 02/10] profiles: Add 'package->development-manifest' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 03/10] DRAFT Add 'guix shell' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 04/10] DRAFT shell: By default load the local 'guix.scm' or 'manifest.scm' file Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 11:52     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-10-02 13:43       ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-05  7:50         ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-08  7:44           ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 14:15     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 04/10] DRAFT shell: By default load the local 'guix.scm' or 'manifest.scm' file Maxime Devos
2021-10-04  8:07       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-05  7:51     ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 05/10] environment: Add tests for '--profile' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 06/10] environment: Skip derivation computation when '--profile' is used Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 11:39     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-10-02 13:46       ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 07/10] environment: Do not connect to the daemon when '--profile' is used Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 08/10] environment: Autoload some modules Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 09/10] cache: Gracefully handle non-existent cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 13:28     ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 10/10] shell: Maintain a profile cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 13:43     ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-02 14:12       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 14:47         ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-04  8:19           ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-04 14:20             ` zimoun
2021-10-04 15:58             ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-08  7:37               ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 13:52     ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-02 14:14       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 14:22         ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-04  8:08           ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:50 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' Jelle Licht
2021-10-02 13:52   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 12:10 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-02 13:40   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 15:08     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-04  8:22       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-04  9:23         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-04 16:50         ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-02 13:03 ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2021-10-02 14:00 ` [bug#50960] ‘guix shell’ shebangs Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-03 22:50   ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2021-10-02 23:57 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' Vagrant Cascadian
2021-10-03  8:36   ` Nicolò Balzarotti
2021-10-04  8:34   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-04 17:12     ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-04  6:56 ` zimoun
2021-10-04  8:39   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-04 10:40     ` zimoun
2021-10-04 12:23       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-04 13:42         ` zimoun
2021-10-04 17:38 ` Leo Famulari
2021-10-08  7:43   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-08 16:16     ` Leo Famulari
2021-10-09 13:38       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11  0:29         ` Leo Famulari
2021-10-04 21:29 ` [bug#50960] [EXT] " Thompson, David
2021-10-07  9:26   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-07 10:52     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-07 11:17       ` [bug#50960] [EXT] " Thompson, David
2021-10-07 12:01         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-08 14:24         ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2021-10-11  9:13     ` zimoun
2021-10-06  8:12 ` Konrad Hinsen
2021-10-07  8:34   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-07  9:15     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-10-08 15:45     ` Konrad Hinsen
2021-10-09  7:45       ` Liliana Marie Prikler [this message]
2021-10-11  8:32       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-09  8:07 ` Stefan
2021-10-11 21:37 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 00/11] 'guix shell' strikes again Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:37   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 01/11] packages: Add 'package-development-inputs' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-12  6:39     ` zimoun
2021-10-12  9:54       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-12 11:52         ` zimoun
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 02/11] profiles: Add 'package->development-manifest' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-12  6:43     ` zimoun
2021-10-12  9:27       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 03/11] Add 'guix shell' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-13 16:51     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 04/11] DRAFT shell: By default load the local 'guix.scm' or 'manifest.scm' file Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 05/11] DRAFT shell: Honor in ~/.config/guix/shell-authorized-directories Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 06/11] environment: Add tests for '--profile' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 07/11] environment: Skip derivation computation when '--profile' is used Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 08/11] environment: Do not connect to the daemon " Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 09/11] environment: Autoload some modules Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 10/11] cache: Gracefully handle non-existent cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 11/11] shell: Maintain a profile cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-12  8:53   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 00/11] 'guix shell' strikes again pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-12  8:57     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-12  9:55       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 00/10] Adding 'guix shell': last call! Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 01/10] packages: Add 'package-development-inputs' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 02/10] profiles: Add 'package->development-manifest' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 03/10] Add 'guix shell' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 04/10] shell: By default load the local 'guix.scm' or 'manifest.scm' file Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 05/10] environment: Add tests for '--profile' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 06/10] environment: Skip derivation computation when '--profile' is used Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 07/10] environment: Do not connect to the daemon " Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 08/10] environment: Autoload some modules Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 09/10] cache: Gracefully handle non-existent cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 10/10] shell: Maintain a profile cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-19  8:43     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 00/10] Adding 'guix shell': last call! zimoun
2021-10-25 13:41     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' zimoun
2021-10-25 18:19       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-25 19:45         ` zimoun
2021-10-25 18:25     ` Ludovic Courtès

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