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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=philipmcgrath.com header.s=fm1 header.b=lf5bhV1U; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b="h PBGIY0"; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 3.51 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=philipmcgrath.com header.s=fm1 header.b=lf5bhV1U; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b="h PBGIY0"; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E0CCA15436 X-Spam-Score: 3.51 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 7sxbT5t9Y6yd On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: > Am Samstag, dem 27.08.2022 um 14:08 -0400 schrieb Philip McGrath: >> On Fri, Aug 26, 2022, at 8:01 AM, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: >> > Am Donnerstag, dem 25.08.2022 um 16:04 -0400 schrieb Philip >> > McGrath: >> > > How does this seem? >> > >=20 >> > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (description "Zuo (=E4=BD=9C) is a= tiny Racket with primitives for >> > > dealing >> > I don't think (=E4=BD=9C) adds anything meaningful.=C2=A0 Perhaps a= Chinese >> > translation might want to use that character, but in English we >> > have to >> > deal with the fact that most no one will understand that.=20 >>=20 >> I think "(=E4=BD=9C)" concisely answers the question, "Why is this ca= lled >> Zuo?" (Answer: =E4=BD=9C means, roughly, "make".) > To the average English speaker, which you'll have to assume in a > description, it really doesn't. You'll have to know that Zuo means > make, at which point it is no longer that concise :) I really think this is quite normal English usage. Consider, for example= , The Chicago Manual of Style, 16th ed., 6.93 (Parentheses for glosses o= r translations), 11.7 (Translated titles), and, most specifically, 11.11= 9 (Inclusion of Chinese and Japanese characters), which says that "Chine= se and Japanese characters, immediately following the romanized version = of the item they represent, are sometimes necessary to help readers iden= tify references cited or terms used" and that "where needed in running t= ext, they may be enclosed in parentheses." When I search for the ascii string "zuo" in a general search engine, I s= ee results about a wholesale furniture company, a "cloud-based subscript= ion management platform provider", a music video, a video game, and seve= ral individuals whose names contain "zuo" before I get to any informatio= n about a Chinese word or character. I don't think it's absolutely essential, but I don't see why including i= t would be a problem. -Philip