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Resent-From: Leo Famulari Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 18:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74917 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Sharlatan Hellseher Cc: 74917@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 74917-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74917.17345473169926 (code B ref 74917); Wed, 18 Dec 2024 18:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 74917) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Dec 2024 18:41:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35972 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tNyzc-0002a2-3z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2024 13:41:56 -0500 Received: from fhigh-b6-smtp.messagingengine.com ([202.12.124.157]:56805) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tNyzZ-0002Zm-OX for 74917@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2024 13:41:54 -0500 Received: from phl-compute-09.internal (phl-compute-09.phl.internal [10.202.2.49]) by mailfhigh.stl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE2E254009E; Wed, 18 Dec 2024 13:41:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from phl-mailfrontend-02 ([10.202.2.163]) by phl-compute-09.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 18 Dec 2024 13:41:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=famulari.name; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:subject:subject:to:to; s=mesmtp; t=1734547307; x= 1734633707; bh=kQ3nXTNev+GJ4eiP/0FSW/gXSW01lqyYJjV0vo1/wu4=; b=m UStematTvIUEGx0sqzP2sDehYnGkKvehr/GWgzXhl+W72+Sefrx9JVOuhHgjNZvX /xMClupHuJvYKfezn6GJIY5cPJqGAmtgtm27Siw1BnJh5v55wY+cMEoGQE8W81AK j9UAPUL2YOcQtK30/K7IslMU4l+FeoApAVLUD2kI+4= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; t= 1734547307; x=1734633707; bh=kQ3nXTNev+GJ4eiP/0FSW/gXSW01lqyYJjV 0vo1/wu4=; b=qspbcAB481B9ok9zqdu7iVOnuUT3IofOpt0uOIbgX32+L/ajS0G CT6rx4mJiQb9WaDBQ8RwHE7LciZ9NeMWZSgK15+/RHuUUza21vfdi6clKw93B925 OKuXR+D+14ohyXMjEJEkPPc152Mexa0LPxz7UtGuOPDfqC+EeJf6ghBxtMCH/QCY I3aXM317gkDmuEan5Y+KFAPNJQrdtXXthE+n36JVUWJ56t237GdKKAUujAVUH3Oa YSt5RXB1PkoIzuOsMJcRFuj+hrZRfWGyHhJm/ECQAKr0+m6EwInaoKkDvxhuwvOs 7X4pHnY5Fq05HbZJhEvI+96+JiJKR+NyW1Q== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefuddrleekgdduudehucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfu rfetoffkrfgpnffqhgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvve fukfhfgggtuggjsehttdertddttddvnecuhfhrohhmpefnvghoucfhrghmuhhlrghrihcu oehlvghosehfrghmuhhlrghrihdrnhgrmhgvqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeetheeuvd eivdelueeukefhtdeihedtgefhvddvlefhudejudeiheelfeevteeuhfenucffohhmrghi nhepghhnuhdrohhrghenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrih hlfhhrohhmpehlvghosehfrghmuhhlrghrihdrnhgrmhgvpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedv pdhmohguvgepshhmthhpohhuthdprhgtphhtthhopehshhgrrhhlrghtrghnuhhssehgmh grihhlrdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepjeegledujeesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhr gh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i819c4023:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 18 Dec 2024 13:41:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 13:41:45 -0500 From: Leo Famulari Message-ID: References: <87msgvuwu6.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87msgvuwu6.fsf@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.21 X-Spam-Score: -3.21 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 631BA63BD8 X-TUID: vRWm5Uu9LcPr On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 09:44:33PM +0000, Sharlatan Hellseher wrote: > I've notice syncthing was build from source without vendor that swap > back to the release tarball containing bundled vendor. Yes, we made that change a while ago. For me, I decided that I didn't think that "unbundling" the dependencies was a good use of my time so I stopped doing it. > Would it be reasonable to built it completely relaying on the packages > available in Guix, WDYT? Personally, I don't think it's reasonable. The GPL says that source code must be available in "the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it." https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.en.html Syncthing is not GPL, but I think that requirement is a good guideline for us to follow so that Guix can give the benefits of GNU and the GPL to our users. For Go software, the preffered from for editing is a Git tree with bundled / vendored dependencies at specific Git commits. Not a bunch of separate trees that the user would have to laboriously re-assemble. However, if we must unbundle, we could consider creating a new Guix mechanism to ease the maintenance burden of Go packages: package variants with parameterized versions. For example, you have a main package variant of some Go module, call it go-foo. That looks like a normal Guix package. If a package needs to use go-foo, it would look like this: (inputs (list (go-foo "1.0.0" "cabba6edr1x2231hw0zsxm53sw34wxcs4ijjjcnzcg1vz9drjrg9"))) At least that would be easy for package maintenance. But I think that using the bundled dependencies for Go packages is the right thing to do from a GNU perspective. Of course we have to make sure they are all free software.