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Which one should we do? I personally tend to prefer tarb= alls > (as the official distribution mechanism of the project). Recently there h= as > been a preference in the Guix project for git repositories when autotools > are involved, as they make it possible to recreate the configure scripts > from their source. But since this is not the case here, the argument does > not hold. I think it does sometimes hold even for projects that don't use autotools, especially older ones: they sometimes work under the assumption that users do not generally care about generated files in their release source, but don't want to put generated files in their development repository. This, of course, is why the autotools generated files problem exists in the first place; autoconf was, after all, designed so that users didn't have to have it installed to build a package, in a world where compiling from relea= se tarballs was the usual way to get new software. -- (