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From: Laura Lazzati <laura.lazzati.15@gmail.com>
To: leo@famulari.name
Cc: "Gábor Boskovits" <boskovits@gmail.com>,
	"Ricardo Wurmus" <ricardo.wurmus@mdc-berlin.de>,
	33632-done@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#33632] [PATCH] doc: Fix typo
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 18:59:19 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPNLzUNP3KrqyfCHxX=yYeqfVvMFwCPhdFeprof-v3Vw6QW5MA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181209184826.GB4643@jasmine.lan>

Thanks for taking time to explain this :) Now I have`more dictionaries
to take into account ;)

I also read this: so that was why I found it confusing too:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/affect-or-effect

Regards!
Laura

On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 3:48 PM Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 10:56:12PM -0300, Laura Lazzati wrote:
> > Then I realized about it and only found it as a verb in American
> > English . Maybe that is why I thought it was a typo. Anyone whose
> > mother tongue is English can shed some light? Thanks for reverting :)
>
> The definition of 'effect' as a verb in the English wiktionary [0] is
> simple: "To make or bring about; to implement."
>
> In my opinion, using 'effect' in this way demonstrates a very high level
> of fluency, even for native English speakers.
>
> You would not use it unless you knew that your audience was highly
> educated or 'well-read' in English.
>
> You only use 'effect' as a verb when you 'make or bring about' something
> that is abstract or intangible. You do not 'effect' a house or a bowl of
> soup; you make, create, or build them.
>
> Merriam-Webster [1] includes a definition which helps us understand the
> usage in the Guix manual: "to put into operation".
>
> Remember, the manual says, "This effects all the configuration specified
> in config.scm: user accounts, system services, et cetera".
>
> If you change that sentence to use the Merriam-Webster definition, I
> think the meaning is clear:
>
> "This puts into operation all the configuration specified in config.scm ..."
>
> [0]
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/effect#Verb
>
> [1]
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/effect
>
> And some extra reading, another good explanation. I agree with them that
> this usage is "not common, but acceptable in rare cases."
> https://web.ku.edu/~edit/affect.html

      reply	other threads:[~2018-12-09 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-05 19:17 [bug#33632] [PATCH] doc: Fix typo Laura Lazzati
2018-12-05 19:34 ` Leo Famulari
     [not found] ` <8736rbzmbu.fsf@nckx>
2018-12-06  1:37   ` Leo Famulari
2018-12-06  1:56     ` Laura Lazzati
2018-12-09 18:48       ` Leo Famulari
2018-12-09 21:59         ` Laura Lazzati [this message]

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