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From: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: Arun Isaac <arunisaac@systemreboot.net>,
	Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz>,
	39258@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#39258] [PATCH v2 0/3] Xapian for Guix package search
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 14:03:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ3okZ2r5WDEF7jnaFSbg4Lznt_kjo6XtUA-2oEe74RztmN1ZQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87blp54yag.fsf@gnu.org>

On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 11:29, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:

> > Back to the topic: I believe that Xapian is a huge win both for the
> > shell and the future GUI :)
>
> It could be, but we need to consider all the aspects of the story,
> including the maintenance cost and overhead moved to ‘guix pull’.  So
> it’s not so much about “beliefs” at this point, but rather about
> demonstrating what can be done, and I’m glad Arun is exploring that
> space!

I agree.
What is currently tested with Xapian is:
 1- speeding up (or not) using an inverted index
 2- the accuracy using the state-of-art of information retrieval (BM25)

About 1- I do not have a strong opinion; even if I find "guix search"
terribly slow as I mentioned earlier (one year ago ;-)).

About 2- as I mentioned earlier, the 'relevance' function could be
improved. Currently, the score is computed only considering the
package itself and not the other packages (the words they use, their
number etc.). BM25 is the state-of-art using what I tried to explained
some time ago when I showed for example TF-IDF. The question is so
what the best move to improve the accuracy. And the improvement
necessarily uses a global index (of terms, at least). But on the other
hand, the improvement should not pay off because it would add
complexity and burden, more than the improvement itself.

Without testing, we cannot say. Thank you Arun for pushing forward.


All the best,
simon

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-09 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-23 19:51 [bug#39258] Faster guix search using an sqlite cache Arun Isaac
2020-01-29 23:33 ` zimoun
2020-01-30 13:48   ` Arun Isaac
2020-01-31 12:48     ` zimoun
2020-02-02 21:16       ` Arun Isaac
2020-02-04 10:19         ` zimoun
2020-02-06  1:58           ` Arun Isaac
2020-02-11 16:29             ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-02-11 18:21               ` zimoun
2020-02-11 18:39                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-02-11 19:07                   ` Arun Isaac
2020-02-11 20:20                     ` zimoun
2020-02-15 14:50                     ` Arun Isaac
2020-02-11 20:13                   ` zimoun
2020-02-27 20:41 ` [bug#39258] [PATCH 0/4] Xapian for Guix package search Arun Isaac
2020-02-27 20:41   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH 1/4] gnu: Add guile-xapian Arun Isaac
2020-03-03 16:29     ` zimoun
2020-02-27 20:41   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH 2/4] build-self: Add guile-xapian to Guix dependencies Arun Isaac
2020-02-27 20:41   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH 3/4] gnu: Generate xapian package search index Arun Isaac
2020-02-28  8:04     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-03-05 20:26       ` Arun Isaac
2020-03-03 18:29     ` zimoun
2020-02-27 20:41   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH 4/4] gnu: Use xapian index for package search Arun Isaac
2020-02-28  8:11     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-03-03 19:21     ` zimoun
2020-03-03 19:51       ` zimoun
2020-02-28  8:13   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH 0/4] Xapian for Guix " Pierre Neidhardt
2020-02-28 12:39     ` zimoun
2020-02-28 12:49       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-02-28 15:36     ` Arun Isaac
2020-02-28 16:04       ` Arun Isaac
2020-03-02 18:37         ` zimoun
2020-03-02 19:13           ` zimoun
2020-03-03 20:04             ` zimoun
2020-02-29  8:25       ` Arun Isaac
2020-03-02 18:27         ` zimoun
2020-02-28 12:36   ` zimoun
2020-03-05 16:46   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-03-07 13:31 ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v2 0/3] " Arun Isaac
2020-03-07 13:31   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v2 1/3] build-self: Add guile-xapian to Guix dependencies Arun Isaac
2020-03-09 18:14     ` zimoun
2020-03-09 23:40     ` Jonathan Brielmaier
2020-03-10  5:24       ` Arun Isaac
2020-03-07 13:31   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v2 2/3] gnu: Generate Xapian package search index Arun Isaac
2020-03-09 18:19     ` zimoun
2020-03-07 13:31   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v2 3/3] gnu: Use Xapian index for package search Arun Isaac
2020-03-07 20:33   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v2 0/3] Xapian for Guix " Ludovic Courtès
2020-03-08  9:01     ` Arun Isaac
2020-03-08 11:33       ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-03-08 20:27         ` Arun Isaac
2020-03-09  7:42           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-03-09 12:50             ` zimoun
2020-03-09 10:35           ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-03-10 14:17             ` Arun Isaac
2020-03-10 14:33               ` zimoun
2020-03-11 13:50               ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-03-13  5:37                 ` Arun Isaac
2020-03-15 20:40                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-03-09  7:50         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-03-09 10:28           ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-03-09 13:03             ` zimoun [this message]
2020-03-09 12:53           ` zimoun
2020-03-09 12:47         ` zimoun
2020-03-09 12:40       ` zimoun
2020-03-09 12:34     ` zimoun
2020-03-08 20:27   ` zimoun
2020-03-08 20:40     ` Arun Isaac
2020-03-09 12:28   ` zimoun
2020-03-27 16:26 ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v3 0/3] Package metadata cache for guix search Arun Isaac
2020-03-27 16:26   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v3 1/3] guix: Generate package metadata cache Arun Isaac
2020-04-24 20:48     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-26  9:48       ` zimoun
2020-04-26 14:35         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-26 14:54           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-04-26 15:33             ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-26 15:05           ` zimoun
2020-03-27 16:26   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v3 2/3] guix: Search " Arun Isaac
2020-04-24 20:58     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-03-27 16:26   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v3 3/3] guix: Use package metadata cache for package search Arun Isaac
2020-04-24 21:03     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-05 14:08   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v3 0/3] Package metadata cache for guix search Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-24 21:05   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-26  3:54 ` [bug#39258] benchmark search: default vs v2 vs v3 zimoun
2020-04-26  7:29   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-04-26 15:49   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-26 17:01     ` zimoun
2020-04-26 20:22       ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-30 13:10     ` zimoun
2020-05-03 15:01 ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v4 0/3] Faster cache generation (similar as v3) zimoun
2020-05-03 15:01   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v4 1/3] DRAFT packages: Add fields to packages cache zimoun
2020-05-03 15:01   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v4 2/3] DRAFT packages: Add new procedure 'fold-packages*' zimoun
2020-05-03 15:01   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v4 3/3] DRAFT guix package: Use cache in 'find-packages-by-description' zimoun
2020-05-03 16:43   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v4 0/3] Faster cache generation (similar as v3) Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-03 18:10     ` zimoun
2020-05-03 19:49       ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-01  0:00 ` [bug#39258] [PATCH 0/4] Optimize guix search Arun Isaac
2020-06-01  0:00   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH 1/4] ui: Cut off search early if any regexp does not match Arun Isaac
2020-06-09  8:29     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-01  0:00   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH 2/4] ui: Use string matching with literal search strings Arun Isaac
2020-06-09  8:33     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-09  9:55       ` zimoun
2020-06-13 12:37       ` Arun Isaac
2020-06-13 13:36         ` zimoun
2020-06-13 17:21           ` Arun Isaac
2020-06-14 19:14             ` zimoun
2020-06-13 19:32         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-15 20:18           ` Arun Isaac
2020-06-01  0:00   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH 3/4] ui: Do not translate package synopsis a second time Arun Isaac
2020-06-09  8:33     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-01  0:00   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH 4/4] ui: Use package-description-string Arun Isaac
2020-06-09  8:34     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-01  1:25   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v5 0/4] Optimize guix search zimoun
2020-06-01  2:24     ` Arun Isaac
2020-06-01 10:01     ` zimoun
2020-06-01 10:11 ` [bug#39258] KMP string search algorithm? zimoun
2020-06-01 22:24   ` Leo Famulari
2020-06-01 23:48     ` Arun Isaac
2020-06-02  8:49       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-07-15  7:33 ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v6 0/2] DRAFT "guix search" performances zimoun
2021-07-15  7:33   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v6 1/2] DRAFT packages: Add fields to packages cache zimoun
2021-07-17  8:31     ` Arun Isaac
2021-07-23 15:30       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-08-17 14:03         ` zimoun
2021-07-15  7:33   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v6 2/2] DRAFT scripts: package: Use cache in 'find-packages-by-description' zimoun
2021-07-23 15:43   ` [bug#39258] [PATCH v6 0/2] DRAFT "guix search" performances Ludovic Courtès
2021-08-20 15:42     ` zimoun

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