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From: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: Brett Gilio <brettg@posteo.net>
Cc: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>,
	"Amin Bandali" <bandali@gnu.org>,
	38605@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#38605] [WIP MLton 0/1] Add MLton
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 17:42:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ3okZ2MW3swvwLjZOJxRp8dFcjNEHvBVGwWdQaFeZT84250CA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878snbzo8y.fsf@posteo.net>

Hi Brett,

Thank you for the explanations.

On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 03:21, Brett Gilio <brettg@posteo.net> wrote:

> I may be misspeaking, but I think CakeML is formally verified in HOL
> which bootstraps against PolyML or SMLnj, and also requires MLton. So
> the issue of cyclic binary-derived bootstrapping remains an issue. This

I have not checked myself and if I understand well your point: CakeML
requires one PolyML binary to bootstrap (see Bootstrapping locally in
[1] which points to [2]). And this PolyML binary is not small and
requires other not-so-small binaries to be produced. And I am not
talking about the HOL part. So their claim that CakeML bootstraps
really depends on how is defined "bootstrap". :-)


[1] https://cakeml.org/download.html
[2] https://github.com/CakeML/cakeml/blob/master/build-instructions.sh


> is where I think Amin Bandali (CC) and I's idea of writing a C-based
> boostrapping compiler and dedicating it to the GNU project would be
> really valuable.

Yes, for sure a clean path from a reduced set of small binaries to a
full ML compiler would be really great! Challenging project. :-)



All the best,
simon

  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-17 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-14  3:58 [bug#38605] [WIP MLton 0/1] Add MLton Brett Gilio
2019-12-14  3:59 ` [bug#38605] [WIP MLton 1/1] gnu: Add mlton Brett Gilio
2020-09-14 17:36   ` zimoun
2022-04-12 10:21     ` [bug#38605] [WIP MLton 0/1] Add MLton zimoun
2022-05-04 11:58       ` bug#38605: " zimoun
2019-12-14 17:58 ` [bug#38605] " Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-15 22:32   ` Brett Gilio
2019-12-16 10:02     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-15  1:59       ` zimoun
2019-12-16 21:23         ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-17  2:20           ` Brett Gilio
2019-12-17 16:42             ` zimoun [this message]
2019-12-18 14:48               ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-21  4:56                 ` Brett Gilio

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