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dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 623F4BC28 X-Spam-Score: 5.54 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 39LYKKy48IJJ Hi Maxime, On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 at 18:23, Maxime Devos wrote: > I have been more-or-less ignoring the ZFS patches since some time after > . If ZFS people(^), after a > disagreement about licensing concerns, directly jump to accusations of > gaslighting and sabogate, completely ignoring my previous arguments (*) > without trying to refute any of them or bringing new arguments, then I > don't want to be involved with ZFS. I sympathize with you Maxime. > Also, the various =E2=80=98work-arounds=E2=80=99 around the GPL<->CDLL in= compatibility > still seem super fishy to me even if they _might_ be technically > correct. To me, this makes reviewing the code practically pointless -- > why review the zfs service patches if they will have to be reverted > due to incompatibility concerns anyway? Summarised: You wrote: To be clear, I don't oppose the inclusion of the ZFS service on basis of the licensing anymore. an your accurate summary gives me the impression you changed your mind. Just to be sure, did you ? Cheers, simon