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Resent-From: zimoun Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 14:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 42456 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Jesse Gibbons Cc: 42456@debbugs.gnu.org, Brett Gilio Received: via spool by 42456-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B42456.159586085314983 (code B ref 42456); Mon, 27 Jul 2020 14:41:02 +0000 Received: (at 42456) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2020 14:40:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55486 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k04JB-0003tb-9a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 10:40:53 -0400 Received: from mail-qk1-f196.google.com ([209.85.222.196]:37309) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k04J9-0003tM-0E for 42456@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 10:40:52 -0400 Received: by mail-qk1-f196.google.com with SMTP id b14so13709602qkn.4 for <42456@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 07:40:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=TxqX2ct/4AdhQ0dK2DekiM/0XBNHEczxce2WK3MNPyg=; b=IFb/OA8uhlFrQhPyUrX0NylCsV1stDTqlnLwRALCJtfubI59MMxKybZcCUUBcfEbY4 Ps8iqfvo7tN+kGKGo56EpyHesAMisDw6MAKNVCMOgnube2ZWR7yF92NInujuNm++Sw8g 61NmDHCegnLO7F52bHJpTNy6+jVqYYQd0ONOkztHYSP6ALIH+c7aAlqMKhWMvPFVd1Xs jRGvfK+hUnCa+InBe8Vg5by7EzO4LQMgFgxP5M00ob3Zlax/DetZRReDvsd8nksfac/s 3eoQQw71JyOqgz/KsvgN283q8wCq7ShLrEbIOidMZwgsE5HapmaRnNtPDsucY/0PrAQh 9orA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=TxqX2ct/4AdhQ0dK2DekiM/0XBNHEczxce2WK3MNPyg=; b=KccAwGfBy7p08/AI8GpaHX+Wc819+6qlN5fxdxUcFx6ogBAc/czF9J5MfGzhj9pmN0 BmvBI93WkbpDb6liNJ4zkaErjO+0vfoVNSAmrsB+rJkKIFet8G7xp2ynugj/0oHk/2dP Yrq4MgdAxnM+wKhzNDzwBbzdk2A5G8pqw14sAHEQWwYox1k4xfsT4KrSbfUu017PETHL SWCfGJ3qh4uxWzG364o0drmMh98VjkmkyDXrdrn3nM9/7cyldLgc/6PVjWV694RjlUy5 xzn7+Pyx5yaHN8/9eMRKY16Y3bzjNf8civcoYx6viQ9TKIGoM8UXlcIGBTUulZGH6vKn XHqQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531MPqfj/m9AUQt0MbzugRCPVbjw6NvP3biihD9IcrXcpFQMTQhD UGsVORJM0THCLGL61+Vmxe7Z+EDg5slHESATf9DgKw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzU3T4RYkiCqOLG0AlkPDt4KD4tQuqKwtfSp6yxJaxbWP+phPjPHeBBJVKC+xCu6fsebiEnA1o0HnfFPjYIrIQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:16af:: with SMTP id s15mr21188783qkj.304.1595860845311; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 07:40:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1dc02d59-c67b-2002-6a99-ceb0cdc24645@gmail.com> <87a6zo5rdq.fsf@gnu.org> <08f72489-fb0b-c367-ff9e-6cb3beb4e127@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <08f72489-fb0b-c367-ff9e-6cb3beb4e127@gmail.com> From: zimoun Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:40:33 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=IFb/OA8u; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.09 X-TUID: LdMbumll/fOX Dear, On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Jesse Gibbons wrote: > > Though I do not know much about hy, I do know the following: > > - There are some libraries written in hy[0]. > > - There are tools written in hy specifically designed to handle hy.[1] > > - Some hy libraries contain macros that I don't think compile into > python. It looks at first glance like hyclib[2] and hyiter[3] are > examples of such packages, though I have not confirmed. Hy uses the Python VM. Basically, the Hy Lisp is transformed into an AST (from ast import *) i.e. Python internals then evaluated using the Python VM (CPython or PyPy). Other said, any Hy code compiles to Python (and vice versa :-)). > - The libraries and programs I have found written in hy look like they > would use python-build-system. If we see patterns in defining these > packages, we can always provide a hy-build-system for convenience. I do not think it makes sense having 'hy-build-system' because Hy uses all the Python machinery, not to say Hy is simply Python with parenthensis. ;-) Other said, Python code can import Hy code, and vice versa, and not because there is "bindings" but because it is the same AST representation. Last, I am not convinced that Hy deserves a rename since it is another Python flavor. Well, similarly than python-on-guile which is in gnu/packages/guile-xyz.scm Cheers, simon