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Resent-From: Greg Hogan Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 16:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 72840 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: Konrad Hinsen , 72840@debbugs.gnu.org, Maxim Cournoyer , =?UTF-8?Q?No=C3=A9?= Lopez , Florian Pelz , andreas@enge.fr Received: via spool by 72840-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B72840.172719567821738 (code B ref 72840); Tue, 24 Sep 2024 16:35:02 +0000 Received: (at 72840) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Sep 2024 16:34:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54039 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1st8Un-0005eV-JW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2024 12:34:38 -0400 Received: from mail-oo1-f54.google.com ([209.85.161.54]:54609) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1st8Ul-0005e4-Uw for 72840@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2024 12:34:36 -0400 Received: by mail-oo1-f54.google.com with SMTP id 006d021491bc7-5e1cdfe241eso2247275eaf.1 for <72840@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 24 Sep 2024 09:34:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=greghogan-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1727195585; x=1727800385; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=qRnGuIkloGjWcWdydBgbwh682zsVR8SKjwkfQTX7Mbc=; b=09cfTbLCitJRJHGA0xWDTEem0rHh25m63dDbPb81zpCrIY3nGjfdoXks7x7i15uggQ vltJ2nBDArkzaPMUuAbku1pmPUr2KIbEJXHd8EYV6S2/oDxqPyPLeI+Y4LZJ+0TTwdoU bFcHYrA0Qb0/SuHPQJS7Wv1JlBA3S3n6CbSzyyV3loI+adbec062tUch+b7v8W5Z2Tis YPKs9vYP+jJGD/Hy6Mo654EuJM8aBaC9ulcT6RcrWnvO3CaDefnbxRa5+Jm7Z9FuqzNi rgznUv5fpMMEzOcR6IXXqGN97AyQ6Z//4FGVkUIU63hrQkJzjb2hivW5VZvUAu3Nw5Wm Y9yg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1727195585; x=1727800385; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=qRnGuIkloGjWcWdydBgbwh682zsVR8SKjwkfQTX7Mbc=; b=V5ru5weiZzhjpkEUCE8TCCW70uVlebXkVB6lQwTjvzRhkdwfhMuok/HXceq8/HWCkY z1a5aC5t92bgzyS0Pgdox59xNf96s62JBV/KTj5HZoq8dHpf3W0KFei19DDsjzwTODeN GmqDfvA9O3shBAzGg5LStTgjciX8eiyx/F50TJXWbHX2eAOzQrYoDql9dPiK0UeXCJ+Y /GcHYvf8YU1t6zuj33Luwe2FPDlSa51L6tzzeY9bSHfAnSCescvfhT9bDMz5hkgsLKa1 iwoGlHlvXbloEHxkqYaaLYWpEw2zME/QODj4ee1/pHIb/0EXn3+LoLSA0W36hwmWYq7Q WxzA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxxXLsxMWUittwwSQ60eRZv5fwVTkryzeamBpqRmEQ3cm5H90Z4 W0k6aLIbxFrlOJr2nFwY1mVaUBT+JTZ1AtzPXwi/tNg4l66/TOvt17/Ag6vPJlQLpVan6eJAKWc U9fCay8aocsnLy9ClqEdkdVAuLLXmDM/kfA+I1g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEMhhgnmSfQoOQ6/XJfvv14TSjd8Pv9KjAKtPG8IDBvyRv919UhPr2Y7n8+iEFm7DbG5DK3xRopO//9roGt3u4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6871:82a:b0:24f:d178:d48d with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-2803a784e5dmr10103224fac.31.1727195585448; Tue, 24 Sep 2024 09:33:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <902c544b5298617c2ed45af8d672130bc9b1a2e3.1726049102.git.ludo@gnu.org> <7b092101ad70b100c147b7dacb6efc3393f6cb06.1727129087.git.ludo@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <7b092101ad70b100c147b7dacb6efc3393f6cb06.1727129087.git.ludo@gnu.org> From: Greg Hogan Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 12:32:53 -0400 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.61 X-Spam-Score: -4.61 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B9AE7313BF X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-TUID: rAyoDQE7n/GQ On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 6:11=E2=80=AFPM Ludovic Court=C3=A8s = wrote: > > +@item Package removal > +Packages whose upstream developers have declared as having reached ``end > +of life'' or being unmaintained may be removed; likewise, packages that > +have been @b{failing to build for two months or more} may be removed. > + > +There is no formal deprecation mechanism for this case, unless a > +replacement exists, in which case the @code{deprecated-package} > +procedure mentioned above can be used. > + > +If the package being removed is a ``leaf'' (no other packages depend on > +it), it may be removed after a @b{one-month review period} of the patch > +removing it (this applies even when the removal has additional > +motivations such as security problems affecting the package). > + > +If it has many dependent packages---as is the case for example with > +Python version@tie{}2---the relevant team must propose a deprecation > +removal agenda and seek consensus with other packagers for @b{at least > +one month}. It may also invite feedback from the broader user > +community, for example through a survey. Removal of all impacted > +packages may be gradual, spanning multiple months, to accommodate all > +use cases. > + > +When the package being removed is considered popular, whether or not it > +is a leaf, its deprecation must be announced as an entry in > +@code{etc/news.scm}. Hi Ludo', Is the intent for the news entry to pre-announce the removal of a popular package, as specified for other kinds of deprecation and removal? Otherwise, even though we have extended the review period, we are expecting users to track the mailing lists. Greg